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Can it also target bytecode or .jar artefacts, this way all JVM languages which compiles into JVM bytecode can be benefited
Yes, GraalVM is built on HotSpot so it can run all bytecode languages too.
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> "One VM to rule them all" Except a VM with a more liberal license could easily beat it in popularity.
Apparently the GPL was never an issue to those enjoying GNU/Linux, maybe you are enjoying your BSD desktop experience?
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Apparently the GPL was never an issue to those enjoying GNU/Linux, maybe you are enjoying your BSD desktop experience?
True, but on the other hand more people are using BSD than Linux, at least on the desktop/laptop because OSX is based on it.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6232240
That was the earliest post I remember from HN. But I record there some other information scattered around a little before that.
So this is nearly 5 years coming. I am amazed what at first seems like fantasy, impossible work is now actually thing. 2012 / 2013 was the year when VM and JIT has lots of innovation. Rubinus, LuaJIT, SpiderMonkey and all those Javascript VM.
Keep in mind that while this is nice technology, it's Oracle-based, split in CE/EE (which in itself is not a problem, but CE doesn't run on macOS), and they will find a way to screw you over at some point in the future regardless of what you do, use or choose.
Like Google, Microsoft, Apple dropping tech, or replacing it with something else, just because. Oracle has done lots of nice things for Java, some of them with uncertain future or even tabu at Sun, like Graal's percusor MaximeVM or AOT compilation. It might not be a company loved by FOSS, but other than IBM there wasn't anyone else caring that much for Java's fate, Google specially did not even bothered. So I appreci…
Recent story about Oracle exercising copyright over the word "javascript": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16862949
Remember when Oracle sued Google for re-implementing the Java standard library.
Remember the OpenOffice -> LibreOffice thing. Remember the Hudson -> Jenkins thing.
There's the enterprise sales/licensing tactics which I guess is not very familiar or visceral for most of us, me included. But I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting ...
Graal dev here. If you want to checkout all the sources/licenses of GraalVM CE. They are here: Graal: https://github.com/oracle/graal (GPLv2 with CPE) JavaScript with Node Integration: https://github.com/graalvm/graaljs (UPL - BSD license) Ruby: https://github.com/oracle/truffleruby (EPL, GPLv2, LGPL) R: https://github.com/oracle/fastr (GPLv2) Python: https://github.com/graalvm/graalpython (UPL - BSD license) LLVM/Su…
I am so super happy about the graaljs license choice ! Thank you so much!
So, any plans to support Windows and MacOSx for CE?
Also, any support for cross-compilation to generate native-binary for a different target(something like Golang GOOS) ?
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True, but on the other hand more people are using BSD than Linux, at least on the desktop/laptop because OSX is based on it.
Doesn't OSX ship with more GPL code than BSD? It has a BSD kernel at it's core but it also has GNU tools and safari (forked from KHTML).
These licenses prevent Graal VM from being used inside e.g. OSes and browsers with a more liberal license.
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Yes, GraalVM is built on HotSpot so it can run all bytecode languages too.
Cool thanks. Keen to try it with Scala and Clojure. Curious to know, How effective would be it's JIT compared to HotSpot ? Any pointers ?
For Clojure I don't know. But from what I understand Clojure produces quite inefficient bytecode, so it may benefit a lot.
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Apparently the GPL was never an issue to those enjoying GNU/Linux, maybe you are enjoying your BSD desktop experience?
True, but on the other hand more people are using BSD than Linux, at least on the desktop/laptop because OSX is based on it.