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Pinebook: An Affordable 64-bit ARM based Open Source Notebook

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Re: Pinebook: An Affordable 64-bit ARM based Open Source Notebook

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I do agree. You can get used X and T series Thinkpads for a couple hundred dollars. They will outlive most cheap new laptops.

If you get a good one. I've been burned so many times now by people selling something they know has problems. They often don't manifest during the "test drive." It sucks.

The advantage of a T- or X- series is that they are common fleet models so you can buy from a bulk reseller that is less likely to be passing off a single dud.

Re: Pinebook: An Affordable 64-bit ARM based Open Source Notebook

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Honest question. Why don't people buy old laptops instead of cheaper new ones? I'm no expert but the cost to performance ratio isn't to far off. I am typing this on T420 Thinkpad laptop. I get desiring to use open hardware but at the detriment of performance doesn't quite make sense.

I like both old laptops and new chromebooks, but I prefer my Chromebook for university, since it is very light (I walk ~45 minutes per day).

I think that this Pinebook thing would be a perfect replacement for my Chromebook once I drop coffee on it by mistake. However, it would be even better with a x86 like my current Chromebook. It is not that much of a problem, since I remember living happily with my old ARM Chromebook with crouton (before the screen died).

Re: Pinebook: An Affordable 64-bit ARM based Open Source Notebook

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Honest question. Why don't people buy old laptops instead of cheaper new ones? I'm no expert but the cost to performance ratio isn't to far off. I am typing this on T420 Thinkpad laptop. I get desiring to use open hardware but at the detriment of performance doesn't quite make sense.

I bet this is cheaper, and lighter than your thinkpad, with a better battery and require less care.

Cheap for good reason; an A53 quad core is Raspberry Pi 3 class. Hope every package you're gonna need is precompiled for arm64 because building anything nontrivial is not going to be fun.

Re: Pinebook: An Affordable 64-bit ARM based Open Source Notebook

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Why would they turn your phone into a laptop when they can sell you a Macbook?

Because less people are buying macbooks and maybe you will by a macdock instead?

exactly, it is hard to believe a dock would cannibalize the macbook market

Re: Pinebook: An Affordable 64-bit ARM based Open Source Notebook

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They have a typo on the spec sheet: USB 2.0 Port Should be 3.0 Port .

do you have a reference for that? The Main Board schematic also shows a 2.0 port...

The A64 in the Pinebook and Pine64 does not support USB3. The RK3288 in the Rock64 (same company) does!

Re: Pinebook: An Affordable 64-bit ARM based Open Source Notebook

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I want this, but with a 7" display: smaller, lighter, better power efficiency (display is the main draw). i.e. a netbook

The GPD Pocket fits this bill. It was available with Ubuntu pre-installed during it's crowd sourcing campaign. The support under Ubuntu is pretty good, including good support for the touch screen. 7" 1080p, atom CPU, 8GB RAM, 128GB SSD. More expensive, but under $500.

https://github.com/stockmind/gpd-pocket-ubuntu-respin

Re: Pinebook: An Affordable 64-bit ARM based Open Source Notebook

#47

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If you get a good one. I've been burned so many times now by people selling something they know has problems. They often don't manifest during the "test drive." It sucks.

The advantage of a T- or X- series is that they are common fleet models so you can buy from a bulk reseller that is less likely to be passing off a single dud.

Is there a specific bulk reseller that you use that you could recommend?

Re: Pinebook: An Affordable 64-bit ARM based Open Source Notebook

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As it is very cheap one can't expect a lot of support but "Warranty: 30 days" is pretty short, 90 is a little more reasonable.

FYI: If you're in the EU these sorts of warranty statements are meaningless. As an EU citizen, regulations state that you have two years of warranty within which, if the item is faulty, you may return it and get a refund.

That’s why it will cost in EU closer to 300$ than original 100$.

Re: Pinebook: An Affordable 64-bit ARM based Open Source Notebook

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And how long does its battery last?

Can't speak for parent, but my T430s lasts for three or four hours, despite longterm heavy battery use. Beware of Lenovo's rootkits if looking to buy from them, however.

ThinkPads never had the rootkits, it was the consumer Lenovo models that had them. Very different culture between those two groups.

Re: Pinebook: An Affordable 64-bit ARM based Open Source Notebook

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I bet this is cheaper, and lighter than your thinkpad, with a better battery and require less care.

Cheap for good reason; an A53 quad core is Raspberry Pi 3 class. Hope every package you're gonna need is precompiled for arm64 because building anything nontrivial is not going to be fun.

Can you not cross-compile from a cloud instance? It seems like compiling software would be a perfect fit for per-minute or per-second VMs.
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