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Re: Oracle owns “JavaScript”, so Apple is taking down my app

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Post by dimal »

xkcd-sucks wrote: post #13
_sdegutis wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meh, I learned modern JavaScript and dove deep into how JS works over the last year and I think it’s probably one of my favorite dynamic languages if not my most favorite one. The syntax is a nice sweet spot, the semantics make more sense in most situations than Ruby or Python, the lacking standard library has been more than made up for by third part packages. I’d love to work in JS in the future which isn’t somethin…

Try maintaining and extending a codebase founded on all those third party packages, over a period of several years

Been working on a 100kloc app and it hasn’t been a problem.

Re: Oracle owns “JavaScript”, so Apple is taking down my app

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Post by sin7 »

Wehrdo wrote: post #15

I'm surprised that "JavaScript" has not become a generic trademark [0]. Examples from the Wikipedia article include Thermos, Chapstick, and Dumpster. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_trademark

This must be the reason that you can't say Legos online without being corrected.

Re: Oracle owns “JavaScript”, so Apple is taking down my app

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Post by cobbzilla »

cryptonector wrote: post #19
Wehrdo wrote: post #15

I'm surprised that "JavaScript" has not become a generic trademark [0]. Examples from the Wikipedia article include Thermos, Chapstick, and Dumpster. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_trademark

A test case might be needed. If Oracle were to sue a deep-pocketed competitor over the trademark, then we might find a court reaching the conclusion that the trademark has been diluted and the name is now generic. But if Oracle does no such thing, and sues only shallow-pocketed "nobodies", then the legal status of the mark will remain unclear. My guess is Oracle would only do the latter, and that they're doing it bec…

I love your riff on Hanlon's Razor:

"Never attribute to malice what you can attribute to a corporate lawyer."

Shall we call it Cryptonector's Razor? You invented it, you name it :)

edit: someone else (not me) should name the principle that explains why so few people on HN have any sense of humor whatsoever.

Re: Oracle owns “JavaScript”, so Apple is taking down my app

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Post by dmoy »

swlkr wrote: post #36
rvalue wrote: post #28

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did he call yavascript to avoid something like this?

He was from the future in the presentation, so he knew that after this oracle debacle, everyone since 2018 onwards called it "yavascript"

In that case everybody in the exclusion zone better start selling their real estate. Help the short term housing crunch while they're at it.

Re: Oracle owns “JavaScript”, so Apple is taking down my app

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Post by a3n »

djsumdog wrote: post #27
cryptonector wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmmm, we just need to find the right lawyer there and put the thought in their head.

You need some inception; make them think it was their idea.

JavaScript was not their idea, so that's clearly not a problem.

Re: Oracle owns “JavaScript”, so Apple is taking down my app

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Post by coldacid »

cryptonector wrote: post #19
Wehrdo wrote: post #15

I'm surprised that "JavaScript" has not become a generic trademark [0]. Examples from the Wikipedia article include Thermos, Chapstick, and Dumpster. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_trademark

A test case might be needed. If Oracle were to sue a deep-pocketed competitor over the trademark, then we might find a court reaching the conclusion that the trademark has been diluted and the name is now generic. But if Oracle does no such thing, and sues only shallow-pocketed "nobodies", then the legal status of the mark will remain unclear. My guess is Oracle would only do the latter, and that they're doing it bec…

>Never attribute to malice what you can attribute to a corporate lawyer.

Are corporate lawyers not the physical manifestation of malice itself?

Re: Oracle owns “JavaScript”, so Apple is taking down my app

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Post by kirrent »

ryanmarsh wrote: post #32
userbinator wrote: post #24

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One Rich Asshole Called Larry Ellison.

His major contribution to society is some entertaining sailboat racing.

Well, it's not like the AC72 and AC50 rules were a lot more popular to certain groups than Oracle is to developers. The AC75 is both a reaction to and rejection of Ellison's vision.
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