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Re: Oracle owns “JavaScript”, so Apple is taking down my app

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Post by ryanmarsh »

userbinator wrote: post #24
giancarlostoro wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I had to explain Oracle to anyone I would only say that their motto is simply "Do all evil."

One Rich Asshole Called Larry Ellison.

His major contribution to society is some entertaining sailboat racing.

Re: Oracle owns “JavaScript”, so Apple is taking down my app

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Post by always_good »

xkcd-sucks wrote: post #13
_sdegutis wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meh, I learned modern JavaScript and dove deep into how JS works over the last year and I think it’s probably one of my favorite dynamic languages if not my most favorite one. The syntax is a nice sweet spot, the semantics make more sense in most situations than Ruby or Python, the lacking standard library has been more than made up for by third part packages. I’d love to work in JS in the future which isn’t somethin…

Try maintaining and extending a codebase founded on all those third party packages, over a period of several years

Dunno, small stdlib-like extensions are the absolute most trivial 3rd party dependencies. Like let's say they use Lodash.

Definitely not the hard part of maintaining a legacy dynamically-typed application. And I'd say it's the most trivial part.

And your assertion suggests that it's somehow rare to have to maintain code? I'm sure the person you replied to has maintained code for more than a year and is drawing part of their post from that experience.

Re: Oracle owns “JavaScript”, so Apple is taking down my app

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Post by ryanmarsh »

Fuck it, let's just call it ECMAScript and be done with it. JavaScript was a purposefully horrible name to begin with (as other commenters have pointed out). One less thing Oracle can jerk us around on.

I'm just going to call it ES or ECMAScript from now on. If enough people do it the matter will be settled.

Re: Oracle owns “JavaScript”, so Apple is taking down my app

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Post by nl »

gowld wrote: post #6

[deleted. Netscape licensed "Java" name from Sun.]

Except that Oracle owns both the JavaScript and Java trademarks via the Sun acquisition.

And Sun requested the name change:

in early December, Netscape and Sun did a license agreement and it became JavaScript. And the idea was to make it a complementary scripting language to go with Java, with the compiled language.[1]

So it's kind of the opposite of chickens coming home to roost. More like a term plan finally paying off.

[1] https://www.infoworld.com/article/2653798/application-develo...

Re: Oracle owns “JavaScript”, so Apple is taking down my app

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Post by swlkr »

rvalue wrote: post #28
piinbinary wrote: post #21

Should we actually start calling it "Yavascript"? ref: https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/the-birth-and-death...

did he call yavascript to avoid something like this?

He was from the future in the presentation, so he knew that after this oracle debacle, everyone since 2018 onwards called it "yavascript"

Re: Oracle owns “JavaScript”, so Apple is taking down my app

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Post by eropple »

rvalue wrote: post #28
piinbinary wrote: post #21

Should we actually start calling it "Yavascript"? ref: https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/the-birth-and-death...

did he call yavascript to avoid something like this?

Phonetic drift and "information lost to time" is a pretty obvious reference, I think.

Re: Oracle owns “JavaScript”, so Apple is taking down my app

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Post by nkozyra »

djsumdog wrote: post #26
piinbinary wrote: post #21

Should we actually start calling it "Yavascript"? ref: https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/the-birth-and-death...

I was wondering why he kept pronouncing it that way. I thought he was just doing funny German pronunciation thing.

It's very common to hear Scandinavian speakers pronounce it that way.
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