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What is the Speed of Gravity?

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Re: What is the Speed of Gravity?

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Reminds me of a thought experiment that's always bugged me: if you had an incredibly long see-saw or lever, like the length of the galaxy, would movement at one end instantaneously be matched by movement at the other end? (I think the reason it bugs me is because the object itself is preposterous, but I still want to know)

If it were a physical object (say, a long steel bar), the atoms would communicate at the speed of light, so your object would bend or squish, with a wave travelling along it. Now, let's say you move an ideal laser across an ideal screen some distance away. The further the screen is, the faster the laser dot will move. At some point the dot will move faster than c... But the dot is not an object. If you think in terms…

Almost. The speed of light is the upper limit on how fast any forces could propagate along the object, in practice they would travel at the speed of sound in the material.

Re: What is the Speed of Gravity?

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The Sun, as it is right now, won't have its gravity affect Earth for another 8+ minutes, and the gravity that the Earth feels right now pulling it towards the Sun is actually pulling it towards where the Sun was 8+ minutes ago! (Weird, isn't it?) I'm almost positive this statement is incorrect. Relativistic force laws tend to be forced to contain correction factors that ensure that constant velocity motion is "predic…

Yes, you are correct. The easiest way to think about it is that while the gravity from the earth moves at the speed of light, while it travels toward the sun, it also moves at the same original speed the earth was traveling at. Te end result is that it appears to travel instantaneously since it ends up at the same place. But this only works for constant velocities - if the earth changes direction suddenly this "corre…

This is more or less a correct interpretation (the physics are definitely right). Importantly, the behavior is seen in electromagnetism, which is much easier to think about than general relativity, so people should start there.

(But no one will ever read this comment because the topic is 5 days old.)

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