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It's heartening to see that the Chinese public will not stand for homophobia. Countries that look to China as a model (looking at you Russia) should take note.
Is there a way to oppose homophobia while still upholding family values (eg: eschew promiscuity and instead take one partner for life)?
Incidents like this are starting to make me feel that software engineers should have a code of ethics, similar to the Hippocratic Oath. So technologies aren't abused to marginalize individuals/groups.
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We've changed the title. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16855849 . On another note: a username of the form "recognizable_person_is_evil" crosses into personal attack, which isn't allowed on HN. You may not owe better to billionaires, but you owe better to this community than to break its rules with every post. So I've banned this account. Account renaming, which we'll have soon, would be a more elegant solu…
> Account renaming, which we'll have soon, would be a more elegant solution, but it's not ready yet. That's awesome! Years ago the suggested solution was to create a new account, which I didn't want to do. I'm quite happy there's a nicer solution now.
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Is there a way to oppose homophobia while still upholding family values (eg: eschew promiscuity and instead take one partner for life)?
Why should I care about looking respectable to a bunch of bible-thumpers who've spent the last decades loudly screaming about how much they hate me and everyone like me?
More to the point, a homosexual that adheres to traditional family values (ie: one partner for life, moderate sobriety, responsible adult) is much more appealing than one that exists outside of traditional family values (ie: promiscuous, heavy drug and alcohol use, other irresponsible behavior). In this instance (and numerous others), the basis of opposition to homosexuality is that acceptance invites degeneracy and destruction of harmonious society.
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Is there a way to oppose homophobia while still upholding family values (eg: eschew promiscuity and instead take one partner for life)?
Generalizing the gay club scene to all gay people is like generalizing Panama City Spring Break to all straight people.
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Is there a way to oppose homophobia while still upholding family values (eg: eschew promiscuity and instead take one partner for life)?
They're two entirely orthogonal issues. You can find homophobia repellent, and believe that promiscuity is bad, and there's nothing stopping that. Why would there be?
Incidents like this are starting to make me feel that software engineers should have a code of ethics, similar to the Hippocratic Oath. So technologies aren't abused to marginalize individuals/groups.
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They're two entirely orthogonal issues. You can find homophobia repellent, and believe that promiscuity is bad, and there's nothing stopping that. Why would there be?
Every person that advocates for gay rights abjectly refuses on a basic level to find promiscuity bad. Until these mythical people form the majority of gay rights advocates, homosexuality will continue to be regarded as dangerous to harmonious society.
First off, your statement is false. There are quite literally millions of people globally who both support gay rights and do not think promiscuity is good. You might be confusing “finding promiscuity bad” with “condemning promiscuity”, which are obviously two distinct concepts. Even if they were considered the same, it’s still obviously not true.
Second, it’s clear that—generally speaking—developed western societies no longer “regard homosexuality as dangerous to harmonious society”. Otherwise there would obviously not be widespread support for same-sex marriage. That feeling isn’t universal yet, but it’s unlikely to be terribly long until society generally stops worrying about it.
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Why should I care about looking respectable to a bunch of bible-thumpers who've spent the last decades loudly screaming about how much they hate me and everyone like me?
Homosexuality and promiscuity are closely intertwined, my argument is that they must be disentangled for homosexuality to be generally acceptable. More to the point, a homosexual that adheres to traditional family values (ie: one partner for life, moderate sobriety, responsible adult) is much more appealing than one that exists outside of traditional family values (ie: promiscuous, heavy drug and alcohol use, other i…
Do you think a majority of Americans have not had premarital sex?
The average American has 7.2 sexual partners over their lifetime. [1]
1. https://www.refinery29.com/2017/08/169555/average-numbers-se...
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They're two entirely orthogonal issues. You can find homophobia repellent, and believe that promiscuity is bad, and there's nothing stopping that. Why would there be?
Every person that advocates for gay rights abjectly refuses on a basic level to find promiscuity bad. Until these mythical people form the majority of gay rights advocates, homosexuality will continue to be regarded as dangerous to harmonious society.
Why should they even consider it? Their opponents usually dishonestly represent homosexuality as one of the worst forms of promiscuity (by the volume of their concerns, worse than nymphomania, cheating, pedophilia, fetish addiction, polygamy, etc.).
The answer to promiscuity is 1. Non of your business, 2. education.