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AWS sales teams are quite responsive to threats of moving in terms of continuing discounts. I've drawn up migration plans solely to use as leverage against AWS for deep discounts in the past.
I'm surprised they have thought to move some of their infrastructure in house. The clearly have the scale where this would make sense, but it may be that AWS and GCP provide them with such low special prices that it doesn't make sense...
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The cloud doesn't really have economies of scale unless your workloads scale opposite of pricing - which they very rarely do. For small shops, sure, but for the example of 500 instances running - you could lease space and grow with physical servers at a better economic scale. If you only need 500 servers for 1 busy season and can drop back down to 100 then stay in the cloud. If you need 500 always running instances a…
In general, I think it’s a wash. The margins you save on end up costing you in other ways, such as development velocity and having access to easily deployed high-scale solutions like dynamo and managed instances like RDS. it takes time and organizational know-how to get to a point where similar things can be managed in the same way as AWS. Again, there are niche segments where this might not be true, 500 constant mac…
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Microsoft pulled out of the music space, they're still selling & renting movies/shows and content services are a core feature of azure. Netflix uses its own POPS for of its content delivery.
Ah yes, I mixed that up. :/ Though who rents movies from Microsoft? And they don't have a subscription-based service for it, like both Amazon and Google do.
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And the standing problem now is that their secondary supplier they're considering is also a competitor in the same space. It's a wonder Netflix isn't testing the waters against Azure, since Microsoft just closed their video sales offerings down.
Isn't it better to be in bed with your competitor so as to have a solid claim against being declared a monopoly?
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You really have to factor in the labor costs of infrastructure and operations into that as well. Running your own private "cloud" isn't cheap. And no matter what you do, you aren't going to get even close to feature parity with the public cloud offerings (or even speed, if you are using virtual-machines). There are a lot of trade offs that you have to weigh in that don't always come down to bare dollars and cents.
Everything you'd have to pay for, Amazon or Google has to pay for for you... plus profit margin. At Netflix scale, it's almost impossible for someone else's cloud to be cheaper than running your own, and hiring the necessary staff and acquiring the necessary space and hardware to do so. I honestly have to wonder if the level of Amazon's discount for Netflix is absurd to the tune of "we lose money doing this" just to…
I think long term, Netflix needs redundancy, especially when the primary supplier is a competitor in the same space.
Yeah. It might only be a matter of time until, to avoid "customer confusion", Amazon decides to no longer have Amazon services provide things to Netflix customers?
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Let's be honest, even in the public cloud there are very few orgs that can survive regional failures and most people solve locality through CDN's for content delivery which means a private datacenter isn't really that different from public cloud for most orgs. Also, when when orgs move to the cloud they don't fire their networking team, they still have deskopts/laptops/servers/security devices/printers and large lans…
I completely agree. I jokingly tell everyone I know using AWS to "not use us-east1" and that they need to use another region not just AZs...and they always laugh and say "you were right" with us-east goes down. At least from my view, there's a difference in backbone versus corporate space networking, but you're right, most everyone won't ever realize any savings from that side of things.
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Microsoft pulled out of the music space, they're still selling & renting movies/shows and content services are a core feature of azure. Netflix uses its own POPS for of its content delivery.
Ah yes, I mixed that up. :/ Though who rents movies from Microsoft? And they don't have a subscription-based service for it, like both Amazon and Google do.
I would think if a business use more than 500 servers, it would make sense to start considering having your own datacenter?
Netflix is all about content delivery -- which is both distributed and highly variable over the day/year.
Using Cloud means Netflix can deploy closer to the customer. Plus scale up and down as required. If they did this themselves it would be quite expensive and involve a lot of redundancy.