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U.S. And U.K. Warn of Cybersecurity Threat from Russia

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Re: U.S. And U.K. Warn of Cybersecurity Threat from Russia

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Excuse, no. But there's nothing wrong with pointing out hypocrisy.

Highlighting the crimes of actor B to excuse the crimes of actor A is not "pointing out hypocrisy", it's an attempt to excuse a crime and confuse the conversation.

No, it's highlighting the fact that US and UK are redirecting attention from their crimes to Russia.

Re: U.S. And U.K. Warn of Cybersecurity Threat from Russia

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Excuse, no. But there's nothing wrong with pointing out hypocrisy.

Highlighting the crimes of actor B to excuse the crimes of actor A is not "pointing out hypocrisy", it's an attempt to excuse a crime and confuse the conversation.

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Re: U.S. And U.K. Warn of Cybersecurity Threat from Russia

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Highlighting the crimes of actor B to excuse the crimes of actor A is not "pointing out hypocrisy", it's an attempt to excuse a crime and confuse the conversation.

No, it's highlighting the fact that US and UK are redirecting attention from their crimes to Russia.

I think based on the conversation you can view, this entire thread has been derailed. whataboutism confirmed, no one is discussing the article and now this thread that _should_ be discussed here will get erased from the front page.

>“Once you own the router, you own all the traffic, to include the chance to harvest credentials and passwords,” said Howard Marshall, deputy assistant director of the cyber division at the Federal Bureau of Investigation. “It is a tremendous weapon in the hands of an adversary.”

if this were true, more effort needs to be done to encrypt traffic fully, not enabling it to be broken with trusted certificates but disabling the ability in the first place (application) from being decrypted.

Re: U.S. And U.K. Warn of Cybersecurity Threat from Russia

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it's highlighting the fact that US and UK are redirecting attention from their crimes to Russia.

I think based on the conversation you can view, this entire thread has been derailed. whataboutism confirmed, no one is discussing the article and now this thread that _should_ be discussed here will get erased from the front page. >“Once you own the router, you own all the traffic, to include the chance to harvest credentials and passwords,” said Howard Marshall, deputy assistant director of the cyber division at th…

"Whataboutism" is just a buzzword for people who want to avoid looking at issues holistically. "Evil Actor A says look out for Evil Actor B" warrants the response "well, they're both evil actors".

Re: U.S. And U.K. Warn of Cybersecurity Threat from Russia

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Should we declare an International Factory Reset Your Router Day? Edit: I know this is not a permanent solution. But it could be effective if combined with efforts to study the propagation of attacks and with efforts to educate the public about properly securing their routers.

How does factory reset help your router from being pwned again though?

It doesn't. But it's an easy action step that could be organized en masse for people who aren't knowledgeable enough to properly secure their routers in the first place that might temporarily deter these kinds of attacks. I don't know, realistically it might only set attackers back by hours or days, but it could also be used to study how attacks propogate through the system and to raise awareness and educate people about properly securing their routers.

Re: U.S. And U.K. Warn of Cybersecurity Threat from Russia

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Should we declare an International Factory Reset Your Router Day? Edit: I know this is not a permanent solution. But it could be effective if combined with efforts to study the propagation of attacks and with efforts to educate the public about properly securing their routers.

Now that we understand a bit more about the behaviour of the system at scale, lets iterate and build the internet again, from scratch, but better this time. Factory resetting routers isn't enough, we need to factory reset the internet.

Agreed.

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And this is why the headline reads "U.S and UK want to harm Russia" to me.

It's really kind of hard to harm Russia more than it manages to harm itself. Yes, Hitler did manage to kill more Russians than Stalin did, but you could also lay the blame for at least some of that at Stalin's door, through the purges in the thirties.

> Hitler did manage to kill more Russians than Stalin did

It's debatable. Stalin's tactics of "scorched earth" and fighting with human waves may shift the toll.

Re: U.S. And U.K. Warn of Cybersecurity Threat from Russia

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They have wiretapped the entire world with PRISM and other similar secret programs. They have seized and vanished a countless number of people to black site secret prisons. Who cares about Russia.

Whataboutism...

Could we ban/flag it on HN?
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