Censor criticism of the regime? Meh.
Censor muscle daddies and slash fic? To the streets!
Chinese Social Media Site Reverses Gay Content Ban After Uproar
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#52Censor criticism of the regime? Meh. Censor muscle daddies and slash fic? To the streets!
I'm sure more people would protest the former if doing so didn't have the repercussions it has.
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#53I was in Fujian, China, two weeks ago and did a Bing web/image search for ‘gay men’ (unrelated to any of this news). Zero results returned, and a standard note about violent and sexually explicit content being censored. Thought that was odd.
Did you try to search for "straight men"? If there is no sexual content in the photo, what would be the difference in a picture of a gay or straight man? They would look the same. By specifying sexual orientation you are by definition requesting sexual content.
Two men holding hands would, in my opinion, qualify as a depiction of presumably gay men, while being free of sexual content.
(though it's culture-dependent. I heard that in some Arab countries it's common for straight men to hold hands between friends)
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
You have to be careful with this. Ethics can also be used to discriminate against people for religious reasons. These people think they are as ethical as you think you are.
All discrimination already is doing this, just indirectly. There's always an implication. The major one in the US is that harder working people are ethically better than lazy people. This combined with the belief that hard work equals success allows for very easy punishment based mindsets to spread.
I don't really understand this mindset. Are we supposed to treat people like there's absolutely no right or wrong way to live? How are we supposed to have a stable society when there are no standards by which to live by or strive for? Why shouldn't we discriminate against bad behavior and provide positive feedback for good behavior?
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#55It's heartening to see that the Chinese public will not stand for homophobia. Countries that look to China as a model (looking at you Russia) should take note.
Is there a way to oppose homophobia while still upholding family values (eg: eschew promiscuity and instead take one partner for life)?
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not to put a damper on things, but it's not like the Hippocratic oath means anything as attested by[1]. It's only good if people heed it, otherwise it's meaningless. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_harvesting_from_Falun_...
Although the Hippocratic oath has no teeth, or real enforcement. Hopefully popularizing a code of ethics, helps move the needle toward a better direction.
How do you reconcile a code of ethics with progressive supremacists that assert dominance is necessary for society to move forward?
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#57It's heartening to see that the Chinese public will not stand for homophobia. Countries that look to China as a model (looking at you Russia) should take note.
Is there a way to oppose homophobia while still upholding family values (eg: eschew promiscuity and instead take one partner for life)?
They're two entirely orthogonal issues. You can find homophobia repellent, and believe that promiscuity is bad, and there's nothing stopping that. Why would there be?
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
Did you try to search for "straight men"? If there is no sexual content in the photo, what would be the difference in a picture of a gay or straight man? They would look the same. By specifying sexual orientation you are by definition requesting sexual content.
Two men holding hands would, in my opinion, qualify as a depiction of presumably gay men, while being free of sexual content. (though it's culture-dependent. I heard that in some Arab countries it's common for straight men to hold hands between friends)
>Two men holding hands
In many countries this is not considered gay. (Saudi Arabia comes to mind)
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
All discrimination already is doing this, just indirectly. There's always an implication. The major one in the US is that harder working people are ethically better than lazy people. This combined with the belief that hard work equals success allows for very easy punishment based mindsets to spread.
I don't really understand this mindset. Are we supposed to treat people like there's absolutely no right or wrong way to live? How are we supposed to have a stable society when there are no standards by which to live by or strive for? Why shouldn't we discriminate against bad behavior and provide positive feedback for good behavior?
> Are we supposed to treat people like there's absolutely no right or wrong way to live?
Yes. Modern society says that as long as your actions don't harm me, you should be able to do what you wish.
There are some edge-cases, caveats, and exceptions - but that is the essence of modern liberalism.
> How are we supposed to have a stable society when there are no standards by which to live
You are assuming stability is a good thing. Progress is made through instability.
You also assume that stability occurred back when society had standards. A quick look through history doesn't show any evidence of that.
You also assume that stability doesn't harm people. It clearly does. When a society says no deviation is acceptable, the deviants are punished for the "crime" of existing.
> Why shouldn't we discriminate against bad behavior and provide positive feedback for good behavior?
Who decides what is good behaviour and what is bad? Allowing women to receive an education was considered bad behaviour in many societies. But society changes.
Why should my behaviour be punished if it doesn't hurt anyone? Who I love is none of your concern.
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#60Incidents like this are starting to make me feel that software engineers should have a code of ethics, similar to the Hippocratic Oath. So technologies aren't abused to marginalize individuals/groups.
You have to be careful with this. Ethics can also be used to discriminate against people for religious reasons. These people think they are as ethical as you think you are.
The Hippocratic oath is not based on religion how would you discriminate against "religion"