Does this mean that Google/Amazon customers on mentioned IP addresses are inaccessible? If so, I think Google/Amazon will choose to cease the contract with Telegram.
No, but third-parties experience some problems.
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#12Does this mean that Google/Amazon customers on mentioned IP addresses are inaccessible? If so, I think Google/Amazon will choose to cease the contract with Telegram.
Yes.
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#13Just in case previously when same thing happened with service called Zello and back then Amazon cease to provide them service (forbid to change IPs) before actual subnets were banned. Soon we'll see how Amazon / Google will react on Kremlin bullying this time.
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#14Russia is taking a page out of the China internet playbook. Next it will build out it's own great firewall and slowly unblock services after it gain's control.
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#15At Telegram their are pulling a troll move of epic proportions, much bigger than the troll move of the Russian government. Let's see what happens.
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#16And they also ordered Apple and Google to remove the app from their stores. I understand there are workarounds, but I'd really like them to respond with "f*ck yourself". It's a shame they won't do that, though.
Whether they respond with process and patience or not, I’m hard pressed to think of powerful states that abide “f*ck yourself” once they’ve started to think national interest/security.
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#17If this is indeed a blanket banning of AWS and GCP, then I assume that Amazon and Google will soon remove Telegram. It might be immoral, but it's the fastest solution to the harm this causes to all other affected customers I can think of.
So do you think it's good idea for Amazon / Google reputation to cease their service to any SaaS if kremlin dont like it? Unlike many smaller players Telegram might actually afford to pay for even millions of new IPs in thousands of subnets.
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#18How long until all countries firewall off and whole reason for creating the internet is completely lost.
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#19And they also ordered Apple and Google to remove the app from their stores. I understand there are workarounds, but I'd really like them to respond with "f*ck yourself". It's a shame they won't do that, though.
Whether they respond with process and patience or not, I’m hard pressed to think of powerful states that abide “f*ck yourself” once they’ve started to think national interest/security.
> they’ve started to think national interest/security
More like Putin's interest/security.
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#20Hm, does that mean other IMs gave their encryption keys to Russian government?
Also could someone from Russia confirm telegram/AWS are blocked?