Microsoft having a funeral for iPhone • Hacker News Board

Re: Microsoft having a funeral for iPhone

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Post by Paulomus » Mon, Sep 13, 2010, 3:16 AM UTC

mahmud wrote: post #5

megablast wrote: post #4

I don't see this as more than the guys having a bit of fun, after probably a very hectic work schedule. Great to see them celebrating in this way. Of course, I don't see Microsoft displacing the iPhone at all, but they do have deep pockets.

Agreed. I didn't like the blog's tone, the team has every right to party. However, I found the iPhone funeral interesting, given how it's Android that's eating everyone's lunch. http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=1434613

The blog did file it under "Apple Fanboyism" and "Microsoft Bashing", so at least they were honest about where they were coming from. I presume that since Android is being touted as an "iPhone Killer", it will have to kill the iPhone first before people want to bury it in turn.

Re: Microsoft having a funeral for iPhone

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Post by brownleej » Mon, Sep 13, 2010, 3:49 AM UTC

towndrunk wrote: post #2

Some how I have a feeling this little show is going to come back and bite them.

It does seem a little soon in the war to be declaring Mission Accomplished.

Re: Microsoft having a funeral for iPhone

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Post by streamline » Mon, Sep 13, 2010, 4:07 AM UTC

A reason why I would join Microsoft / Google rather than Apple.

I have found employees of the former two to be much more interactive with outside world, compared to Apple employees.

Also Microsoft, Google and other companies such as Facebook, Amazon, Oracle, Twitter go to great lengths to make sure that they provide best compensation and benefits to their software engineers, somehow Apple always makes their software engineers look like secondary citizens and i doubt if they even pay well.

Re: Microsoft having a funeral for iPhone

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Post by gmlk » Mon, Sep 13, 2010, 5:14 AM UTC

cubicle67 wrote: post #9

sdbryan wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought Microsoft was burning something like a billion dollars a year in losses in order to in order to be in the video game console market. Is that impression wrong? Has MS made a profit yet in games?

They haven't recouped all the money they'd invested yet (still about $4 billion short), but they are now turning a profit of a few hundred million each quarter

Meaning they stopped digging a deeper hole?

Or that they do continue to dig, only now it's filling up faster then they can dig?

Re: Microsoft having a funeral for iPhone

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Post by rimantas » Mon, Sep 13, 2010, 7:27 AM UTC

mahmud wrote: post #5

megablast wrote: post #4

I don't see this as more than the guys having a bit of fun, after probably a very hectic work schedule. Great to see them celebrating in this way. Of course, I don't see Microsoft displacing the iPhone at all, but they do have deep pockets.

Agreed. I didn't like the blog's tone, the team has every right to party. However, I found the iPhone funeral interesting, given how it's Android that's eating everyone's lunch. http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=1434613

  given how it's Android that's eating everyone's lunch.

Yep, Apple is so losing money with iPhone, iPad and iPod touch. Interesting, did gartner take the last two into account? iPod touch runs iOS and gets FaceTime, I presume this may come to iPad too.

Re: Microsoft having a funeral for iPhone

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Post by cookiecaper » Mon, Sep 13, 2010, 8:01 AM UTC

gmlk wrote: post #14

cubicle67 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They haven't recouped all the money they'd invested yet (still about $4 billion short), but they are now turning a profit of a few hundred million each quarter

Meaning they stopped digging a deeper hole? Or that they do continue to dig, only now it's filling up faster then they can dig?

Meaning that in a few years their investment in the games market will have paid off probably. Investments are long-term strategies.

Re: Microsoft having a funeral for iPhone

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Post by glhaynes » Mon, Sep 13, 2010, 12:58 PM UTC

cookiecaper wrote: post #16

gmlk wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meaning they stopped digging a deeper hole? Or that they do continue to dig, only now it's filling up faster then they can dig?

Meaning that in a few years their investment in the games market will have paid off probably. Investments are long-term strategies.

Video games are such a volatile market, I wouldn't say "probably" about much of anything. That's a big chunk of the danger in dropping so much money to try to grab some market share, expecting to make the money back someday. Of course, at the same time, one couldn't expect Microsoft to stay out of such a "convergence" market, so I'm not by any means saying that Xbox has been a mistake, either.