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What a fig is.

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Re: What a fig is.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dried figs, or what might be in a fig newton, well... you're on your own on that one. err, that's what I was most interested in... I've eaten an entire pack of fig newtons in one sitting.

"I've eaten an entire biological micro-ecosystem in one sitting." FTFY! Glad I don't like fig newtons. :)

Cookies are a weakness of mine. It will be interesting to see if this puts me off of fig newtons... probably not. :)

Re: What a fig is.

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dried figs, or what might be in a fig newton, well... you're on your own on that one. err, that's what I was most interested in... I've eaten an entire pack of fig newtons in one sitting.

"I've eaten an entire biological micro-ecosystem in one sitting." FTFY! Glad I don't like fig newtons. :)

Just don't ever look at the germs in your mouth or the rest of your digestive system.

Re: What a fig is.

#43
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dried figs, or what might be in a fig newton, well... you're on your own on that one. err, that's what I was most interested in... I've eaten an entire pack of fig newtons in one sitting.

"I've eaten an entire biological micro-ecosystem in one sitting." FTFY! Glad I don't like fig newtons. :)

You are a biological micro-ecosystem. So eating one shouldn't really squick you out.

Re: What a fig is.

#44
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dried figs, or what might be in a fig newton, well... you're on your own on that one. err, that's what I was most interested in... I've eaten an entire pack of fig newtons in one sitting.

"I've eaten an entire biological micro-ecosystem in one sitting." FTFY! Glad I don't like fig newtons. :)

"I've eaten an entire biological micro-ecosystem in one sitting."

Tastes like ... victory.

Re: What a fig is.

#46
post #26

If you are squeamish and like figs, this may comfort you. According to a comment in the original post, majority of commercial ones do not contain insects: "Only some kinds of figs (so called 'Smyrna' types) are pollenated by wasps. The vast majority of figs eaten come from varieties that produce fruit parthenocarpically. It is highly unlikely that the fig you ate at the supermarket was of a variety pollenated by wasp…

More on parthenocarpy, a word I did not know existed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthenocarpy Essentially a mutation that gets trees to produce useless fruits that don't have actually developed seeds and don't need pollination. While that sort of mutation would normally be selected against, since the trees can't reproduce via seeds and are expending energy on producing fruit for no reason, it's deliberately select…

> (...) the "naturally" versus "artificially" distinction is a bit, erm, artificial, if you just think of humans as another species (...)

"Aritificial" means "man-made", and is a (man-made/artificial) word invented to describe things that are done by humans, not other animals. By definition, everything a farmer makes is artificial.

Re: What a fig is.

#47
post #26

If you are squeamish and like figs, this may comfort you. According to a comment in the original post, majority of commercial ones do not contain insects: "Only some kinds of figs (so called 'Smyrna' types) are pollenated by wasps. The vast majority of figs eaten come from varieties that produce fruit parthenocarpically. It is highly unlikely that the fig you ate at the supermarket was of a variety pollenated by wasp…

Most of the commercial figs grown in California are wasp pollinated. If a fig is crunchy, it contains seeds, and if it contains seeds, the flowers inside it were likely pollinated by at least one wasp.

Here is a great article with more details :)

http://waynesword.palomar.edu/pljune99.htm

Re: What a fig is.

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More on parthenocarpy, a word I did not know existed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthenocarpy Essentially a mutation that gets trees to produce useless fruits that don't have actually developed seeds and don't need pollination. While that sort of mutation would normally be selected against, since the trees can't reproduce via seeds and are expending energy on producing fruit for no reason, it's deliberately select…

> (...) the "naturally" versus "artificially" distinction is a bit, erm, artificial, if you just think of humans as another species (...) "Aritificial" means "man-made", and is a (man-made/artificial) word invented to describe things that are done by humans, not other animals. By definition, everything a farmer makes is artificial.

Well, yes, I meant more the philosophical assumption that there's a difference between "natural" and shall we say "unnatural" things, rather than viewing humans as just another part of nature. If "artificial" is just a shorthand for "the part of nature strongly influenced by Homo sapiens", then that's fine with me.

Re: What a fig is.

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post #30

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They are correct. Most of the figs, at least the fresh ones you would buy in the US, are parthenocarpic. Dried figs, or what might be in a fig newton, well... you're on your own on that one. There is an amazing amount of wildlife in a wasp pollinated fig. If you break one open, all sorts of interesting stuff crawls out, not just immature wasps, but also a lot of organisms that prey on the wasps.

Dried figs, or what might be in a fig newton, well... you're on your own on that one. err, that's what I was most interested in... I've eaten an entire pack of fig newtons in one sitting.

The fig filling in fig newtons is crunch because it contains seeds. ;)

Re: What a fig is.

#50
post #24

Take a fig. Okay, take about 8 of them. And take 8 strips of thick-cut, maple-smoked, peppered organic bacon, the best you can find. Wrap the fig in the bacon, secure with a toothpick, and place on a pan. Roast at 425F for about 25 minutes, checking after about 15 minutes. I assure you, you will not be disappointed.

Does this fig hold a wasp? That's an enigma, wrapped in mystery, wrapped in bacon.
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