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Apple needs to tackle the issue of smartphone addiction

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Re: Apple needs to tackle the issue of smartphone addiction

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> Tim Cook recently said, "I think the best regulation is no regulation, is self-regulation". This quote was made with regard specifically to Facebook's recent problems with privacy, and Cook then immediately said: “However, I think we’re beyond that here.” Clearly he thinks regulation can be necessary sometimes, and specifically he has been an advocate for user privacy. I don't know that he intended these words to b…

> Cook then immediately said: “However, I think we’re beyond that here.” Clearly he thinks regulation can be necessary sometimes If there is even a slightest chance of a hundred-billion dollar corporation ignoring morals and helping foreign powers install a dictator and destroy truth in publishing and trust in America, then it should be clear that Regulation was required from the start . There is no "oops now we get…

The problem with ex-ante regulation is that you can kill really good ideas before they take off. Government regulations should target known problems rather than problems that people imagine will happen. That does mean we need to let some problems happen, but that's a tradeoff worth making in a society that cares about making innovation possible.

By the way, when Facebook was new nobody would have guessed that it might be involved in a Russian plot to influence a presidential election more than a decade in the future, so regulation would not have been proposed anyway.

And back in the 90s, the Justice Department claimed Microsoft was a monopoly that could only be stopped by government action. And then over the next few decades, Microsoft was knocked off its pedestal by companies and market trends that nobody anticipated. If it really had been a monopoly, that wouldn't have been possible.

Governments have a pretty bad track record of predicting the future, especially regarding the interaction between technology and culture.

> You can't know what their self-regulation means.

You also can't know what internal steps a company like Facebook has taken to deal with government regulations like GDPR. But you can measure outcomes. Given that regulations are intended to produce outcomes, that's what you ought to be measuring anyway.

Re: Apple needs to tackle the issue of smartphone addiction

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I also think generalizing smartphone use as “addiction” is a misrepresentation! I have no doubt that some people are addicted to their phones...but just as some people are addicted to Siracha sauce The media needs to chill the fuck out and move on to the next hype cycle...or better (but unrealistic): stop the hype around anything and just go back to reporting actual news

> I have no doubt that some people are addicted to their phones...but just as some people are addicted to Siracha sauce I don't think _anyone_ is addicted to sriracha in the same way people are addicted to their personal devices. Downplaying this problem is the last thing that should be done.

Via Wikipedia:

Addiction is a brain disorder characterized by compulsive engagement in rewarding stimuli despite adverse consequences.[8] Despite the involvement of a number of psychosocial factors, a biological process – one which is induced by repeated exposure to an addictive stimulus – is the core pathology that drives the development and maintenance of an addiction.[1][9] The two properties that characterize all addictive stimuli are that they are reinforcing (i.e., they increase the likelihood that a person will seek repeated exposure to them) and intrinsically rewarding (i.e., they are perceived as being inherently positive, desirable, and pleasurable).

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And now go and google Sriracha addiction

Re: Apple needs to tackle the issue of smartphone addiction

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post #87

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I also think generalizing smartphone use as “addiction” is a misrepresentation! I have no doubt that some people are addicted to their phones...but just as some people are addicted to Siracha sauce The media needs to chill the fuck out and move on to the next hype cycle...or better (but unrealistic): stop the hype around anything and just go back to reporting actual news

> I have no doubt that some people are addicted to their phones...but just as some people are addicted to Siracha sauce I don't think _anyone_ is addicted to sriracha in the same way people are addicted to their personal devices. Downplaying this problem is the last thing that should be done.

I'm way more addicted to hot sauce than I am to any electronics and I spend all day on electronics.

Re: Apple needs to tackle the issue of smartphone addiction

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Something that I don't know if they've mentioned specifically in public was that the Apple Watch was partly designed to deal with smartphone addiction. I don't have a citable source handy here, so it's just my word, but when I interned with Apple last year there were a few "town hall" events where interns could ask questions of senior management (Cook, Ahrendts, Cue, Maestri, etc). At one of them (I think the Tim Coo…

I purchased the Apple Watch when the cellular version came out. You can bet that my smartphone usage has gone down since I've stopped carrying it around. I get my messages, my calls, and my emails. I can get directions if necessary. I even get my wallet, my weather, my reminders/schedule AND my music. What else do I need? EDIT: Did I mention it also tells time?

Fuji X series have the IQ of a "real" camera but a very portable form factor.

I currently carry a Nikon FE film camera around when I want a camera small enough to forget about, but I am itching to get an X100F in particular.

Re: Apple needs to tackle the issue of smartphone addiction

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I've been struggling with addiction in various forms for my entire adult life, so I have a decent understanding of it imho.

When I first learned what a smartphone was, I knew immediately that I would become addicted to it if I let myself.

I simply chose not to get addicted to smartphones by never purchasing one, and it's working out quite well so far.

I know they're awesome little nuggets of technology, but I just don't want to be that connected... so I don't own one.

For the same reasons that I choose not to continually purchase the latest gaming console.

Spending $1,000 on something every 6 months (amortized cost of the smartphone + connectivity charges) that eventually becomes worthless isn't far off from a serious drug or alcohol addiction financially speaking...

And now all of my "straight laced" friends can hardly even carry on a casual conversation without looking at their smartphones every few minutes has only reinforced my way of thinking.

They use smartphones as passive babysitters for their children when they're on short car rides without hesitation.

The look on a 3 year old's mesmerized face as they stare into a tablet disgusts me to no end.

I now choose to never own a smartphone.

I know they're a detriment to society.

Perhaps when I am old, dying, and actually in desperate need of "contact", I'll splurge on one.

But until then, I'm perfectly content receiving and composing emails from a full-blown computer with a keyboard... and sending the odd text message through my dumbphone.

I work in the tech industry, and refusing to own a smartphone hasn't slowed me down yet!

Re: Apple needs to tackle the issue of smartphone addiction

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post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I purchased the Apple Watch when the cellular version came out. You can bet that my smartphone usage has gone down since I've stopped carrying it around. I get my messages, my calls, and my emails. I can get directions if necessary. I even get my wallet, my weather, my reminders/schedule AND my music. What else do I need? EDIT: Did I mention it also tells time?

Fuji X series have the IQ of a "real" camera but a very portable form factor. I currently carry a Nikon FE film camera around when I want a camera small enough to forget about, but I am itching to get an X100F in particular.

I had one, the colours were brilliant but the autofocus, operation and lowlight were all poor.

Re: Apple needs to tackle the issue of smartphone addiction

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Something that I don't know if they've mentioned specifically in public was that the Apple Watch was partly designed to deal with smartphone addiction. I don't have a citable source handy here, so it's just my word, but when I interned with Apple last year there were a few "town hall" events where interns could ask questions of senior management (Cook, Ahrendts, Cue, Maestri, etc). At one of them (I think the Tim Coo…

Interesting story. But it seems to me they're just substituting addiction with distraction. The Apple watch ad always made me cringe: they basically listed how the wonderful moments of our life are distracted by digital devices. These devices used to be feet away: radio, phones, computers... now I have to bloody wear it on me? No fucking way.

Re: Apple needs to tackle the issue of smartphone addiction

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post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I purchased the Apple Watch when the cellular version came out. You can bet that my smartphone usage has gone down since I've stopped carrying it around. I get my messages, my calls, and my emails. I can get directions if necessary. I even get my wallet, my weather, my reminders/schedule AND my music. What else do I need? EDIT: Did I mention it also tells time?

Fuji X series have the IQ of a "real" camera but a very portable form factor. I currently carry a Nikon FE film camera around when I want a camera small enough to forget about, but I am itching to get an X100F in particular.

I got the fuji x-pro2 for this reason. I used to carry a bunch of canon gear... till I stopped bringing it anywhere because it was too heavy.

I traded it all in for a fuji, and 2 small primes, and I bring that camera everywhere.

Re: Apple needs to tackle the issue of smartphone addiction

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fuji X series have the IQ of a "real" camera but a very portable form factor. I currently carry a Nikon FE film camera around when I want a camera small enough to forget about, but I am itching to get an X100F in particular.

I had one, the colours were brilliant but the autofocus, operation and lowlight were all poor.

Can you elaborate? I thought that sensor was at least OK in low light

Re: Apple needs to tackle the issue of smartphone addiction

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I don't get why people think that this is apple's problem. Do a better job of parenting. Have some self discipline. There are so many products in this world that take advantage of our biology. The iPhone is just one. And it's currently being obsessed over by media outlets. What about all the processed foods making people fat and unhealthy? What about Starbucks selling addictive drugs on every corner and getting away…

One day, an old man was walking along a beach that was littered with thousands of starfish that had been washed ashore by the high tide. As he walked he came upon a young boy who was eagerly throwing the starfish back into the ocean, one by one. Puzzled, the man looked at the boy and asked what he was doing. Without looking up from his task, the boy simply replied, “I’m saving these starfish, Sir”. The old man chuckl…

High tide happens twice a day so I agree with the old man ;)

I get what you are saying though, and I don't think that it's dumb to try to make progress and help people. I am just pointing out how irrational the world is and how many other problems there are that people turn a blind eye to.

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