If the value network of a market evolves different than the way it was "supposed to be", the problem is with your assumptions, not the technology.
You're not going to fix the problem by changing the technology.
Time to rebuild the web?
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Re: Time to rebuild the web?
#302I don't believe the problem lies in any technology. We don't need blockchain, it's not JavaScript minification, it isn't the centralisation of services that are the problem. It's the business model. No amount of tech is going to change that. If you want to change the situation, start social media businesses with a different business model.
>it isn't the centralisation of services that are the problem.
I strongly disagree. These giant monopolies on different corners of tech caused by centralization are the very reason we end up having to have these stupid discussions about how everything should work.
All of this crap tied up in walled gardens means we just have to cry on the outside with #DeleteFacebook hash tags and hope stuff changes.
You claim we need to change the business model. I claim the business model is irrelevant if we instead focus on open source and distributed platforms.
Re: Time to rebuild the web?
#303Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agreed 1000%. Everyone wants unlimited high quality content that is also free but no ads and conditional privacy and "true" information and ... and ... and ...
... and Wikipedia and NPR are excellent if imperfect versions of that model.
Both of which are constantly asking for donations
Re: Time to rebuild the web?
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You sound like a buzzword machine. A simple RSS feed can easily be hand written. But of course, you don't do that because there are so many mature tools to create or manipulate an XML feed already. Whereas with jsonfeed there is not much yet because it is so new. If you can hack JSON, you can hack XML as well. Even programmer novices can do this. Edit: Reworded the last sentence that could be interpreted as a persona…
Please be civil :). Avoiding ad hominem attacks is more conducive to discussion. I have already justified my preference for jsonfeed. XML has proved many times to decrease developer productivity. To my knowledge open source projects that have dropped or diminished their use of XML have only become more popular over time. Extrapolating a little bit, switching to JSON can only be a good thing.
What is your justification? You already know JSON and you don't wanna learn another notation? You know XML but the use of "" are too offensive?
If you're such a hacker why not just write a script for yourself that convert javascript to xml instead of making a new standard and fracturing things even more :P
Or would you care to share a hack you've done with jsonfeed that I can't do with my RSS reader?
Re: Time to rebuild the web?
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They can block all intermediary servers outside the country, that's fine. E-mail is an entire system, the way Facebook is a system. They would either need to block individual addresses, or the entire system. The former is the only feasible option with e-mail, otherwise basically you couldn't do business with the outside world, and China likes doing business. With the web, or chat apps, they block the whole target sys…
They would either need to block individual addresses, or the entire system Well, no, they could (and would) block domains, like "*@facebook.com". Which would leave you exactly where you are now. If what you want is an a non-encrypted web where China can analyze and choose the specific content it wants to block, then fine, but I don't see what the whole email-like system has to do with it.
Yes and no. You could block the Facebook domain, but due to things like alternate domains, aliases and forwarders, you can easily pass data to different domains and still have your data reach the intended recipient. The target can be made ephemeral just by configuring your mail server account.
I don't think China wants to block specific content because that's a lot more complicated an approach than blocking target systems. By making the web more e-mail like, you can pass data through the web, and it can reach the intended target without that target being discovered. You could in essence borrow the Tor method, but for plaintext communications over HTTP.
You could use the same approach for web data by decoupling the addresses from the content. Federated services and pre-authorized applications is one way to connect disparate content and networks to each other. Another would be a way to submit data to a network in general, and allow others to retrieve it, for example with some pre-shared key or authorized service. You could make this work across different types of data and networks. For example, I should be able to send an e-mail to some address, and an intended recipient could check their Facebook messages and see the data, even though the mail address was something arbitrary.
Re: Time to rebuild the web?
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For a seasoned programmer, sure. But a layperson had a much better chance of understanding an early 90's webpage with the exact same content as a modern day one.
I specifically mean for a layperson. Hi John how's things? (close all the things) Is way better than Hi John how's things? (close all the things)
Actually, it isn't. Because it left out all the moving parts that are now in the CSS. That second example is complete, the first one isn't, the second one gives me a fair idea of what the result should look like, the first could look like anything (even a blank page...).
Re: Time to rebuild the web?
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... and Wikipedia and NPR are excellent if imperfect versions of that model.
Both of which are constantly asking for donations
The idea that something in the commons should be funded by the majority isn't a new one. At this point the debate turns into an argument on tax policy and its peripherals...
I don't think that debate will end until we all create some sort of hive mind AI by networking our brains together.
Re: Time to rebuild the web?
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The ongoing success of Netflix proves not everybody is a freeloader, and a report from Spotify made the news for their estimate that 2 million people are using ad-block software to get premium without paying for it - the bigger news should really be that they have 150-some million users that aren't cheating the system, and that 70 million people pay money to Spotify. Everybody wants something for free, but there are…
As a paying customer, I'm genuinely surprised that adblocking is possible with Spotify considering they control both the servers and the client. That said, I started on the free plan and have friends who still use it and the ads really aren't intrustive at all - it hardly seems like it would be worth the effort?
They control the client but not Browser/DNS/OS
Re: Time to rebuild the web?
#309I don't believe the problem lies in any technology. We don't need blockchain, it's not JavaScript minification, it isn't the centralisation of services that are the problem. It's the business model. No amount of tech is going to change that. If you want to change the situation, start social media businesses with a different business model.
>it isn't the centralisation of services that are the problem. I strongly disagree. These giant monopolies on different corners of tech caused by centralization are the very reason we end up having to have these stupid discussions about how everything should work. All of this crap tied up in walled gardens means we just have to cry on the outside with #DeleteFacebook hash tags and hope stuff changes. You claim we nee…
I agree... With centralization so pervasive in technology today its harder to carve out sustainable business models.
Google is largely pay to play for search, content creators are having to leverage twitter, instagram, facebook and pinterest to try and deliver traffic so 90% of our business is derrived from creating value for thse social networks and search engines in hopes of return.
It really blows when the majority of your day isn't adding value to the web but trying to play in the perpetual game of fighting for morsels of traffic from the giants.
and as we've seen, those with money can manipulate...
Re: Time to rebuild the web?
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But then you just choose an ISP that doesn't do such dastardly deals. It might cost more, but that's your choice.
In the US, one's choices are often (1) ISP A, (2) no internet.
Do you not have cable as well as the phone system?
Do you not have sewers a competitor could run fibre through?
Do you not have unlicensed p2p wireless?