Soviet-Era Industrial Design

Post by gandhium » Mon, Apr 16, 2018, 4:04 PM UTC

Can_Not wrote: post #119

v_lisivka wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At beginning of WWW2, USSR had pretty good position: thousands of tanks, millions of tons of ammunition, million army, powerful ally (Germany). USSR attacked Finland at winter to prevent invasion of France & Britain via Norway and Finland to attack Leningrad. It was risky move, lot of soldiers of Red Army died because of cold, but USSR won. At beginning 1941, USSR waited for beginning of Britain bombing of Baku, to s…

A non-aggression pact is not an alliance, nor does it make an ally. Hitler fundamentally hated the communists, but was also desperate to prevent the USSR from joining the war. Stalin also fundamentally hated the Nazis.

Post by cema » Mon, Apr 16, 2018, 8:33 PM UTC

rdtsc wrote: post #37

Moscow Design Museum has some more examples too http://moscowdesignmuseum.ru/en/exhibitions/1/ . Those that grew up in Soviet Union will recognize familiar objects. I recognized the phones, the "basketball" game, and the portable checkers game. Well and of course the Moskvitch 408 car. I don't remember really thinking about design back then. Maybe because we didn't have many choices. You wanted a tape player you pick…

  Most of the stuff remember being unreliable and needing repair.

Post by Can_Not » Mon, Apr 16, 2018, 9:47 PM UTC

gandhium wrote: post #121

Can_Not wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A non-aggression pact is not an alliance, nor does it make an ally. Hitler fundamentally hated the communists, but was also desperate to prevent the USSR from joining the war. Stalin also fundamentally hated the Nazis.

> non-aggression pact is not an alliance Jointly dividing Poland and having a military parade there is not an alliance? Providing secret base for U-boats - just a pact, not an alliance?

Post by profalseidol » Wed, Apr 18, 2018, 12:57 AM UTC

markvdb wrote: post #53

rdtsc wrote: post #37

Moscow Design Museum has some more examples too http://moscowdesignmuseum.ru/en/exhibitions/1/ . Those that grew up in Soviet Union will recognize familiar objects. I recognized the phones, the "basketball" game, and the portable checkers game. Well and of course the Moskvitch 408 car. I don't remember really thinking about design back then. Maybe because we didn't have many choices. You wanted a tape player you pick…

One thing always strikes me in terms of design when I'm in Latvia (USSR republic in 1940 and 1945-1990). It is how modular, repairable, and in that way "simple" things that have survived from the Soviet era look. Ingeniously built wooden ironing boards for example, the older generations of trams of Riga, the "Minsk" folding bicycles that you still see around very often, the trains (no new ones since 1991!), even many…

Post by gandhium » Wed, Apr 18, 2018, 3:42 PM UTC

Can_Not wrote: post #128

gandhium wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Random agreements? Like "hey, let's do something... maybe invade a few random countries"?

Sure, if you want to designate any random aggreement as a full on best-friends-for-life alliance, you do you, buddy. But the facts remain, Germany and the USSR were delivered facto enemies who were looking to destroy each other the first chance they get.