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It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

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Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

#92

This article starts with the headline, "Because everyone using Chrome for everything is a bad idea" and it's right about the need for diversity in browsers. But that doesn't mean just Firefox or Chrome. On the contrary, for technically inclined users it's time to consider giving up on Chrome, Firefox, Safari and all the other locked-down anti-user walled gardens that violate software freedoms. I know this is a niche…

Then what do you recommend switching to?

Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

#95
Recently I switched to Brave on mobile, and I am planning to switching to Brave on mine laptop.

I want privacy-first browser. Period.

I also was backing Mozilla foundation (small sums) for 5+ years in hopes they will focus on browsers. They did not. They are cutting deals with ad serving companies, they are spending resources on mobile os, they are spending resources on VR browser and I don't know what else.

Good luck to them, but I want fast and reliable privacy-first browser and they are not that right now. Brave is.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

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post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My same analogy with cars would be : "Would you drive a car produced by Exxon". Google interest is not the web, it's its own profit.

Mozilla made 530M in 2016 - they're a company. Firefox is is a strategical business decision. Their interest in the web is the exact same interest as Google's in the web. $$$.

I guess the difference is that for Mozilla the product is Firefox, whereas for Google the product is you. Or rather; your data.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

#97

This article starts with the headline, "Because everyone using Chrome for everything is a bad idea" and it's right about the need for diversity in browsers. But that doesn't mean just Firefox or Chrome. On the contrary, for technically inclined users it's time to consider giving up on Chrome, Firefox, Safari and all the other locked-down anti-user walled gardens that violate software freedoms. I know this is a niche…

Then what do you recommend switching to?

I'm intentionally refraining from recommending anything specific because that gets comments in these threads downvoted and killed. There are plenty of good Firefox forks.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

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post #83
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My same analogy with cars would be : "Would you drive a car produced by Exxon". Google interest is not the web, it's its own profit.

Mozilla made 530M in 2016 - they're a company. Firefox is is a strategical business decision. Their interest in the web is the exact same interest as Google's in the web. $$$.

Mozilla is a non-profit organisation.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

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Question on those using firefox as a daily driver on OS X. Comparisons batterywise to safari how much less battery life do you get in general with firefox now? That is my #1 reason for sticking to safari for now. That and I need to find out what extensions I need again after the switch to the new extension model.

Both Chrome and Firefox seem to use slightly more battery than Safari on my 2016 MBP. When I say slightly more, I mean that according to Activity Monitor, they both have ~3x more "energy impact", however in practice I haven't noticed a difference in my battery life. The major difference with Firefox is that on some websites (namely Google Maps, Youtube, Twitch, sometimes Gmail), Firefox spikes my CPU usage/temperatur…

Cool danke. I'll give it a go then, the only thing I hit of those is youtube. I've been migrating all my stuff off gmail to fastmail so I'm pretty good to go in that regard. Energy impact in activity monitor is ok...ish but in the end I normally look to the actual battery percentage.

If its in spitting distance of safari it'll be ok, i'm a pretty hard user of tabs though so would be nice to get back to tree style tabs. But sounds like it might be worth a go.

I'll give safari and firefox a comparison with the same tabs opened in a window and see how long it takes to get to some battery %. Chrome last time I checked with a comparison with the same kind of usage was over an hour less battery life.

But this is obviously impacted by what websites one goes to etc... so really impacted by my own usage really.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

#100
I finally uninstalled Chrome from all my setups today. I have chromium for occasional testing left, but it is Quantum on desktop and Fennec on phone now.

Best things I've loved since I switched:

- Cookie AutoDelete, keeps a whitelist of domains and deletes the rest, which works nicely with:

- Multi-Account Containers: Create multiple cookiejars

- Decentraleyes: Caches JS files from CDN servers for faster loads.

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