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It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

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Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

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The thing with the FF was it did not support U2F tokens in Linux correctly when I tried it few months ago. U2F requires some "U2F addon" that is incompatible with Quantum.

This is a no-go for me as I have numerous websites secured with Yubikey and without this the browser is just "YT/Facebook viewer"...

As soon as this changes, I might give it another chance.

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EDIT: Oh, FFS I just tried to look it up again and found property "security.webauth.u2f" which seems to be false by default. After enabling it U2F works! Geez, why would you disable that id default -_-

Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

#42
I tried Firefox on OS X but it maxes my CPU frequently, doing simple tasks like scrolling or loading small gifs on Reddit, slowing my system down significantly. I noticed my fans spinning much more frequently than Chrome. It appears to be linked to using scaled resolutions [0]. Until this is fixed, Chrome is significantly faster for me, which is disappointing because I like everything else about FF.

[0] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?format=default&id=...

Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

#44

I never left FF. It's been a great browser for me and I've never been tempted to leave. Recently though since the big update that rendered half the add-ons I came to rely on useless - I'm in limbo with no alternatives to them or half-hearted promises that the dev will get round to porting them "sometime". Chrome has a lot of them as well as alternatives available and for me this is where I do consider jumping ship. I…

Personally, I have 5-6 'must-have addons' that keep me on Firefox, but they've all now been updated for the new API. The only perhaps outstanding breakage is add-ons that implement alternative tab bars (I use a couple to put the tab bar on the side) -- they still are somewhat limited in how they can customize the sidebar, and the add-on now has no interface to disable the default tab bar, so you need to do that yourself with userChrome.css. As I understand, add-on devs are working with FF to address this soon.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

#45

Author thinks Chrome is the best browser so whatever. I've been using Firefox for the past 4 years and while the latest version is certainly the best thus far, even when Chrome performed "better" I'd still not use it for a myriad of reasons mostly revolving around the fact that everything Google does these days is crooked. Author mentions the built in ad-blocker. Did you know Google also banned AdNauseum from the pla…

Especially as a web developer, I gave Firefox a second chance and tried to use it's FirefoxDeveloperEdition - but debugging JavaScript was so painful. It somehow felt so slow compare to Chrome's JS debugger.

Has anyone else felt this too?

Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

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post #19

Question on those using firefox as a daily driver on OS X. Comparisons batterywise to safari how much less battery life do you get in general with firefox now? That is my #1 reason for sticking to safari for now. That and I need to find out what extensions I need again after the switch to the new extension model.

Both Chrome and Firefox seem to use slightly more battery than Safari on my 2016 MBP. When I say slightly more, I mean that according to Activity Monitor, they both have ~3x more "energy impact", however in practice I haven't noticed a difference in my battery life. The major difference with Firefox is that on some websites (namely Google Maps, Youtube, Twitch, sometimes Gmail), Firefox spikes my CPU usage/temperatur…

Yep, I experience the same issue on a 2015 13" MBP. Appears to be an issue w/ FF and OS X scaled resolutions (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?format=default&id=...)

Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

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post #38

Here's my favorite metaphor to explain Chrome and Firefox. So, imagine you have two cars to chose from. The first car, called Chrome, is really cool - it's quick, it's nice, it's reliable, it's comfortable. There's just one thing. There's a guy on the back seat. He's always there. He writes down wherever you're going. When you go shopping, he makes a copy of the receipt. When you drive with someone, he listens to the…

With respect to your analogy: What of Chromium [with the right settings switched in the user's favour]?

Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

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post #38

Here's my favorite metaphor to explain Chrome and Firefox. So, imagine you have two cars to chose from. The first car, called Chrome, is really cool - it's quick, it's nice, it's reliable, it's comfortable. There's just one thing. There's a guy on the back seat. He's always there. He writes down wherever you're going. When you go shopping, he makes a copy of the receipt. When you drive with someone, he listens to the…

Why should we listen to you? Have you even tried to turn that stuff off in Chrome? What did you find out?

Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

#50

I have done - and it's awesome on Windows / Fedora. But it's so janky and slow on Android, this is on a Pixel 2 XL. What is so wrong with the Android version? For the record i've tried to move across for ad-blocking which Chrome doesn't provide, and I do need the account sync. Firefox is just as janky without any plugins on Android.

Interesting; I use the nightly build on my Pixel 2 XL and it seems just fine, almost on par with Chrome.
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