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It's pretty obvious Google is moving the facebook way. This will evolve into a proprietary messaging system, basic mail gets demoted to a third-class service, and people get locked into yet another non-standard ecosystem controlled by one company.
The only difference is that facebook was blatant about it, and google's taking the boiling frog approach.
Glad I’ve moved to fastmail.
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You could use that CSS rendered font someone made a while ago to make it into an uncopyable text.
This whole argument about copying is rather silly, at some point the text must be transmitted in a human readable form. At which point it can be recorded either electronically, or in the most difficult case by writing down manually what must be copied. Everything else is a question of degrees.
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What's wrong with it?
That come to mind: Hard to separate pending tasks from just conversations. Hard to split conversations into separate threads when two topics diverge. Leaving a conversation isn't just your decision: you have to both reply all and hope that no one else replies all using a previous email in the thread. In a corporate email, inability to prevent mass emails from other employees. Hard to do for personal email too. EDIT:…
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Why do people keep bringing up screenshots as some kind of evidence of something that was said? I can easily go into an email, bring up the source code, edit the email body to have some racist tirade, then screenshot the edited email and use that as “evidence” against a person.
email often has DKIM headers, which are fantastic for non-repudiation
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Not having improvements is a feature. Yes, please leave email the way it is, because it works fine. It’s one of the few things that does. The only feature I want is end to end encryption. Google will never make encryption easy on their own because they’ve got perverse incentives not to.
Email does work fine. We have a similar solution for encryption: PGP. If you do the encryption yourself instead of relying on your email client to handle it, it works fine. Type your text, encrypt it, then put it in an email; get a response, decrypt it, and read it — it's easy, and it works. People who say PGP is too hard to use are usually relying on a plugin for their email client, or some other unreliable, "encryp…
What we need is a way to make E2E encryption easy and straightforward, like Signal or Wire, where it's easy, automatic and default enabled.
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Dont fix what aint broken ;) Email is not doomed. Actually it is getting more and more relevant, this picture might shed some light: https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/chat_systems.png All the chat programs are making all the communication pain in the neck and the only way of communicating that you can rely to are old school phone calls, sms and email. There is also other side, with email you actually think what you are wr…
> immediately when it leaves it, it is probably just a mime header which I will gladely ignore Apparently it isn't so easy. They send you a link, which you click. Then the message opens in a web page.
Gmail intentionally deviates from the IMAP spec, forcing email clients to either become Gmail clients or work poorly with Gmail. They refuse to support IMAP push, instead saving push for the Gmail API. Recently they introduced AMP for Email, which happens to work via emails that only Gmail can read. Now they introduce another feature which happens to work via emails that only Gmail can read. I think it's pretty clear…
I'd long ago deleted my Facebook account, but the #deletefacebook push did strengthen my resolve enough to finally move my Gmail over to Fastmail. No regrets.
While Fastmail at this moment look much better than other mail services, nobody know what Fastmail (or any other service) could do with your correspondence tomorrow.
There is cool sample flowchart[0] created using Dia[1]: "Should I encrypt my email?"[2]
[0] http://dia-installer.de/shapes/Flowchart/index.html.en
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dia_(software)
[2] http://dia-installer.de/shapes/Flowchart/images/Flowchart.pn...
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> Not many people are paying attention, but this is just another move from Google to make email = Gmail. Agree with that. And sad and weird. There are plenty of ways to do well in business without eroding the open nature of email!
A counter argument is that email wasn't really designed with the security considerations that we have today. So while I agree with both of you, this is an eventual and necessary evolution of email. Self-destructive and encrypted messaging is something many, many email users have wanted for years. And people who absolutely require these features (such as hospitals) have long-ago come up with similar solutions.
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That come to mind: Hard to separate pending tasks from just conversations. Hard to split conversations into separate threads when two topics diverge. Leaving a conversation isn't just your decision: you have to both reply all and hope that no one else replies all using a previous email in the thread. In a corporate email, inability to prevent mass emails from other employees. Hard to do for personal email too. EDIT:…
Those are email client specific issues.
