In a Leaked Memo, Apple Warns Employees to Stop Leaking Information

Post by trisimix » Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 11:27 PM UTC

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The notion that leakers are driven in part by ego was not invented by the CIA. It's well-known and exploited by reporters. As an example there's a short discussion in the recent movie The Post where Post reporters are trying to figure out who leaked the Pentagon Papers. Ben Bagdikian says something like these guys are always a bit of a showboat and it leads him to remember Ellsberg at Rand. EDIT to add: the CIA is in…

The Post is a movie about the Washington Post, which has a large undisclosed financial conflict of interest with the CIA. Jeff Bezos's AWS has a large CIA contract, and Bezos owns the Post. Getting a take about leakers in such a movie is not the best way to acquire a real picture of the world. The CIA only locks up brown people and tortures them in Thailand (star). It refers US leakers to the FBI which throws them in…

Post by dragonwriter » Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 11:34 PM UTC

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I'm a little skeptical. The intelligence services would say something that would make you skeptical of the motivations of leakers. If they're selfishly motivated the public doesn't mind them being locked up and put into isolation and tortured in ways that don't leave a mark. The leakers that come to mind immediately are Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning whom both suffered greatly for their leaks (Snowden had to leav…

Didn't Manning leak classified information that threatened the lives of foreign operatives? I never understood why Snowden and Manning are put on equal footing in that regard.

Post by millstone » Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 11:39 PM UTC

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There's a huge advantage in your competitors not knowing what your focus is, particularly if you're working on something out of left fields. The more you can hide from them, the more of a head start you can have over them.

Does Apple have a head start on most things they do? Most observers acknowledge they aren't usually the first to do something, rather, they're good at execution and polish. They were beaten to market on pretty much everything: watches, bezelless displays with notch (e.g. Essential Phone), smart/speakers (Amazon, Google, Sonos), Streaming/TV (Roku, Amazon, Chromecast), etc. Really, I think the world would be better if…

Post by [deleted] » Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 11:45 PM UTC

walrus01 wrote: post #160

I wonder how many ex-intelligence-agency counterintelligence people Apply employs. Probably at least a few. Question for those who've gone through CI training: Do Apple leaks all fit into one of the MICE categories? I don't think there is any new motivation. (Money, Ideology, Conscience, Ego) Would be very interested to see what programs they have developed to intentionally generate false but plausible information in…

Post by ghaff » Sat, Apr 14, 2018, 12:04 AM UTC

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5. Personal profit. In a lot of such leaks the employee is paid by an outside source.

I'll repost a comment I made a few moments ago [0] again here: > Are media organizations like 9to5mac (mentioned in Apple's memo) paying Apple insiders for the information they provide? > Personally, I wouldn't think that the leakers were getting paid. Even if they were, I imagine the amount that these particular online web sites are able to pay is very much -- especially when compared to the average Apple employee's…