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What do you of America? No net neutrality, media monopolization, telecom-monopolization, rising economic oligarchy, active collusion by heads of the executive branch, unsubstantiated attacks on quiet well-justified investigations, war mongering around the globe... to start with. I'm curious what kind of language you'd use to describe America after throwing that hyperbole at Europe.
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#22c3o (Christopher Clay), who works in the EU Parliament according to his profile, posted several informative comments including one explaining the backstory behind the proposed legislation:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16812099
> The back story of the law may shed some light.
> First, it's no secret that the intent is to prop up the business model of struggling publishers by getting internet platforms to pay them for spreading (links to/tiny snippets of) their content.
> After a "link tax" law was introduced in Germany, some publishers decided to waive it. Google reacted by removing snippets from those who didn't in Google News, making their links less likely to be clicked on. Afraid of losing traffic, these publishers then granted Google a free license.
> The government of Spain looked at this result and decided to implement the idea as an inalienable right, to make sure some publishers couldn't opt out, and Google would have to pay up. In response, Google shut down Google News altogether in Spain.
> This is the version that the Parliament's chief negotiator now wants the EU to implement. He believes that Google (and Facebook and Twitter, which have been added as targets) wouldn't dare shut down a service across all of Europe.
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#23We (America) just signed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act into law last month without so much as a blip from The AP or Thompson Reuters.
The internet is sorta like the printing-press but more important. Of course it's threatening the powers-that-be & of course they're gonna' try and get that under control.
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#24"The biggest and most worrisome changes are to the "link tax" proposal, which would establish a special copyright-like fee to be paid by websites to news publishers, in exchange for the privilege of using short snippets of quoted text as part of a link to the original news article. Voss's latest amendments would make the link tax an inalienable right, that news publishers cannot waive even if they choose to." "...tha…
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GDPR is not about stopping the spread of free information. its about personal data. You are completely mis-characterising the nature of the GDPR legislation. Regulators are not enemies. Regulators are the enemies of established companies, and operate in favour of civil society as civil servants: they are subject to oversight, and are imposed to create oversight over entities who are not equilibriating in favour of wi…
Since English is not my first language, it tires me to write in it, so I'll give a little example that will destroy the "GDPR protects privacy" once and for all. If I make a website with a comment system, or maybe a forum, I need to reveal to the world my identity otherwise the EU will go after me.
You see, before GDPR I could put up a website, put on WHOIS privacy using a company unreachable by the EU, and then create a cool forum where I criticize the stupid policies of the european governments (and I can tell you, there are a lot).
My identity would be REALLY protected, and even my political stance. "Who is this guy explaining people why we're so bad? Damn him!", would say the evil bureaucrats while stroking his Stalin-inspired mustache.
Instead now I need to write a stupid page where I say "[MY NAME] will manage your data this and this way". So, the government will know my political stance and my opinions, will have a complete name to easily link to the website. But there is more! After that, not only they'll have my name, but yet an extra set of law, with wide space for interpretations, that they can use to persecute me further. They can drag me to court because "I didn't treat data right", and it doesn't matter if I was complying or not, the risk of going to court is enough for many people to just not open the website.
Of course, I make the political example, but think about sexual fetishes forum and things like that. The EU wants me to reveal to the world what my sexual preferences are, with all the risks that come with it! That's what the GDPR is. I can't even make a website to discuss my sexual tastes without telling the world who I am!
To sum it up: if you create a website, your privacy will be lost, and everyone will be able to know that you are the creator of that website. Then, many people won't create websites because they'll be scared of being dragged to court. Small, indpendent, websites will die and only big companies will rule the internet. This is the reality and I don't know how people who supposedly use the internet in a professional way can't see it.
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GDPR is not about stopping the spread of free information. its about personal data. You are completely mis-characterising the nature of the GDPR legislation. Regulators are not enemies. Regulators are the enemies of established companies, and operate in favour of civil society as civil servants: they are subject to oversight, and are imposed to create oversight over entities who are not equilibriating in favour of wi…
You must have a really short memory to say that "regulators are not enemies". Just look at any history book, tell me what you find. Since English is not my first language, it tires me to write in it, so I'll give a little example that will destroy the "GDPR protects privacy" once and for all. If I make a website with a comment system, or maybe a forum, I need to reveal to the world my identity otherwise the EU will g…
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The cookie regs seem largely a moot effort given the pervasiveness of cookie usage, GDPR though I think is actually a generally good idea. The "nightmare scenario" that certain articles have detailed might be overburdening for companies, but in general having the right to be forgotten and know how your data is being distributed are large advancements in personal data rights. This new reg to me is just bewildering how…
Many companies including Twillo and Delta have rolled out their tracking controls behind feature flags. If you decide that you'd rather not be tracked they make you stare at a spinner for ~100 seconds while your privacy settings are "being applied".
Keeping privacy as inconvenient as possible is big business.
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You must have a really short memory to say that "regulators are not enemies". Just look at any history book, tell me what you find. Since English is not my first language, it tires me to write in it, so I'll give a little example that will destroy the "GDPR protects privacy" once and for all. If I make a website with a comment system, or maybe a forum, I need to reveal to the world my identity otherwise the EU will g…
This would only matter if you’re profiting from your fetish forum, which seems unlikely. Plus you’d need to have an EU presence, otherwise who cares and who would force you? There’s nothing stopping you from ignoring GDPR in the scenarios you describe. Being a small hobby forum pretty much let’s you pretend GDPR doesn’t exist, while being the likes or FaceBook makes it impossible to ignore.
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GDPR is not about stopping the spread of free information. its about personal data. You are completely mis-characterising the nature of the GDPR legislation. Regulators are not enemies. Regulators are the enemies of established companies, and operate in favour of civil society as civil servants: they are subject to oversight, and are imposed to create oversight over entities who are not equilibriating in favour of wi…
You must have a really short memory to say that "regulators are not enemies". Just look at any history book, tell me what you find. Since English is not my first language, it tires me to write in it, so I'll give a little example that will destroy the "GDPR protects privacy" once and for all. If I make a website with a comment system, or maybe a forum, I need to reveal to the world my identity otherwise the EU will g…