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Google is testing expiring emails in the new Gmail

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Re: Google is testing expiring emails in the new Gmail

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> It says that the recipient won’t be able to forward email content, copy and paste, download or print the email. DRM for email? that worked so great for the media industry... No thanks.

Seems like people will figure out the screenshot approach pretty quickly here.

Sorry, they hi-jack your whole system... and they alter the screen frequency/display so that even a camera can't take a picture.

Re: Google is testing expiring emails in the new Gmail

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post #47
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Encryption doesn't work unless both sides use it. Apple supporting it won't help apple users one bit, because nobody else uses an actual application to check mails anymore. It's mostly web mail clients everywhere, and they obviously can't use encryption.

iMessage?

Apple controls all sides of iMessage.

Re: Google is testing expiring emails in the new Gmail

#54
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like client-side email encryption is a missed opportunity for Apple. Easy encrypted email would fit nicely into their narrative of “we can offer privacy features that Google can’t, because we sell you stuff”

Encryption doesn't work unless both sides use it. Apple supporting it won't help apple users one bit, because nobody else uses an actual application to check mails anymore. It's mostly web mail clients everywhere, and they obviously can't use encryption.

iOS? Plus, I know folks who use mail.app. I also bet they could figure out how to instrument Safari with browser-side encryption for their cloud users.

A few more privacy scandals break, and if Apple had an end-to-end encryption story that sounds roughly like: “If you’re using Apple products and services, you probably don’t need to think too much about the techy parts.” I could easily see Apple cementing their position for anyone even remotely concerned about privacy.

Apple the computer company. Apple the media company. Apple the smartphone conpany. Apple the consumer privacy and protection company? I could see it.

Re: Google is testing expiring emails in the new Gmail

#56
post #48

No. No. No. Google, please don't mess with email standards.

Waaaay too late on that. Just try setting up your own server and sending to a Gmail address.

They're going further: this would likely be incompatible with email services from other providers such as fastmail.

Re: Google is testing expiring emails in the new Gmail

#57
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like client-side email encryption is a missed opportunity for Apple. Easy encrypted email would fit nicely into their narrative of “we can offer privacy features that Google can’t, because we sell you stuff”

Useful client side encryption is hard. If the user doesn't understand what they are doing feel like they have security when in reality any script kiddie can break their encryption.

iMessage ain’t Signal, but it’s also better than the default posture of email.

Re: Google is testing expiring emails in the new Gmail

#58
About 2 years ago I received a quote in my yahoo email that on the bottom said "this email will vanish from your mailbox within 48 hours". And sure it did! I wonder how the author did that. He wasn't working for yahoo or anything like that; it was a quote not related to technology in any way.

I'm still puzzled by this one. Anyone?

Re: Google is testing expiring emails in the new Gmail

#59
post #33

Wouldn't self destructing emails only work if both sides use Gmail?

No, the article covers this. The recipient receives a link instead to the content.

Too bad they have to distort the truth then. They're sending an email with a link to some other non-email content. Much like when someone sends any other sort of hosted-content URL like a Google Doc or Dropbox sharing link.

As a matter of principle, I should retrieve the email via IMAP and later, while reading it offline, compose a short reply, "you forgot to attach a real message, please try again."

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