This would be great... if taking (and faking) screenshots wasn't possible.
Google is testing expiring emails in the new Gmail
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Re: Google is testing expiring emails in the new Gmail
#22Seems annoying. No one would rely on this to keep actual sensitive info private, since you can just screen shot it. On the other hand, part of the point of Gmail is that it makes your emails easily searchable, so you can quickly dig up info from old mail rather than have to make a note of said info in some sepearate program/notebook/whatever. But if emails are going to randomly be disappearing, it could really crippl…
Why do people keep bringing up screenshots as some kind of evidence of something that was said? I can easily go into an email, bring up the source code, edit the email body to have some racist tirade, then screenshot the edited email and use that as “evidence” against a person.
Re: Google is testing expiring emails in the new Gmail
#23Seems annoying. No one would rely on this to keep actual sensitive info private, since you can just screen shot it. On the other hand, part of the point of Gmail is that it makes your emails easily searchable, so you can quickly dig up info from old mail rather than have to make a note of said info in some sepearate program/notebook/whatever. But if emails are going to randomly be disappearing, it could really crippl…
Many companies keep copies of emails received. If the email has sensitive info, it's going to be kept around even if you "delete" it from your inbox. That's what this works around. Now the archived copy will be worthless because it only contains a link to the real content.
Re: Google is testing expiring emails in the new Gmail
#24Seems annoying. No one would rely on this to keep actual sensitive info private, since you can just screen shot it. On the other hand, part of the point of Gmail is that it makes your emails easily searchable, so you can quickly dig up info from old mail rather than have to make a note of said info in some sepearate program/notebook/whatever. But if emails are going to randomly be disappearing, it could really crippl…
> No one would rely on this to keep actual sensitive info private, since you can just screen shot it.
It's more of a "please don't forward this" feature than a "you can't forward this" feature. It's the same with DRM features in Outlook. It stops people from accidentally leaking information, but it doesn't stop people who intentionally want to leak information.
In an ideal world telling the recipient not to spread this information (either by just asking or some kind of work policy) should be enough but sometimes having a small technical barrier is needed.
Also when information is leaked at a later time it can show intent on the leaker (vs saying something like "oops I fat-fingered the recipients when I forwarded that email to my personal account")
Re: Google is testing expiring emails in the new Gmail
#25In my eyes this is clearly not meant as a way to prevent malicious intentional data exfiltration; what it does is force users who want to retain and forward the data to do so in a way that leaves no doubt about their intentions, so that they can be more easily sued.
Re: Google is testing expiring emails in the new Gmail
#26By "self-destruct" do you mean stored on a Google server somewhere?
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Re: Google is testing expiring emails in the new Gmail
#27> It says that the recipient won’t be able to forward email content, copy and paste, download or print the email. DRM for email? that worked so great for the media industry... No thanks.
Seems like people will figure out the screenshot approach pretty quickly here.
But what if it uses Widevine and HDCP? /s
Re: Google is testing expiring emails in the new Gmail
#28"On the recipient’s side, the person was using the existing version of Gmail and received a link to view the confidential email. The recipient had to log into their Google account once again to view the content."
IMO this is an open invitation to phishers.
Re: Google is testing expiring emails in the new Gmail
#29Please, let's not "disrupt" the email: it's so beautiful because it's so standard. For example, google's dot rules already (ko.me@gmail.com = kome@gmail.com) make no sense and break many applications: they need to stop. I like innovation, but to innovate email wouldn't be better to innovate in a slow and consensual way using RFC after RFC, at least in the case of email?
> it's so beautiful because it's so standard I think it's really the opposite, every provider tends to introduce new/unique/nonstandards but they (mostly) interact at a minimum with eachother. Re: gmail DOT and + notation, those have been in common use on that platform for over a decade. >I like innovation, but to innovate email wouldn't be better to innovate in a slow and consensual way using RFC after RFC, at least…
Paypal still sends me someone else's email because they signed up with myemail@gmail.com whereas I signed up with my.email@gmail.com. Apparently there's some way to make an account there where the email is considered secondary and they just never verify it.
Re: Google is testing expiring emails in the new Gmail
#30What a bunch of hype garbage this is. If you send something in plaintext to a server it's already game over. If Google was serious about privacy it would pgp-encrypt everything so only the client, client-side can decrypt it, just like what protonmail does. pfff, 'self destructing emails', what a heaping pile of razzle dazzle no-ops that is -- this is more likely subliminal advertisement for the new mission impossible…
Or double encryption with one key held by Google on an HSM enforced time-out so the email does self destruct.