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Re: Telegram is the hot new source for pirated content

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Post by Asooka » Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 10:55 AM UTC

Sacho wrote: post #19

Asooka wrote: post #12

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Piracy is a real issue. It disrupts the money flow towards media distributors and artists, and thus weakens the economy.

Er, how does it weaken the economy? The money that the corporations don't get doesn't actually vanish in a puff of smoke, it's still in posession of economic actors, who either purchase something else or invest it in a bank/stock. What it does is reduce the profit of those corporations, which may make their business unsustainable and lead to this market shrinking, which may cause economic instability while people reo…

Well my friends who pirate just hoard the money they would otherwise be spending. If you're at the point where spending on entertainment would come out of money, that you would otherwise spend on something more worthwhile, you shouldn't be watching movies and listening to music in the first place! You should be working and bettering your economic position!

Not everyone can afford to have fun and that's ok. Some people's place in life is to be workers.

Re: Telegram is the hot new source for pirated content

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Post by yenda » Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 10:55 AM UTC

rostigerpudel wrote: post #17

Am I the only one who senses a huge bias in this article? Arab writing, citing Russians, telling "law-abiding" citizens not to download. Everything seems to be designed to scare away the "good American people". Also...yes, you can transfer files over IMs. Yes, having good encryption protects everyone. Duh, where is the news? Maybe that's part of why the article feels extremely sensationalist to me. EDIT: > "It's actu…

I'm using telegram and I have never encountered illegal content, I suppose you have to actively looking for it

Re: Telegram is the hot new source for pirated content

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Post by FranzFerdiNaN » Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 11:12 AM UTC

Asooka wrote: post #51

Sacho wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Er, how does it weaken the economy? The money that the corporations don't get doesn't actually vanish in a puff of smoke, it's still in posession of economic actors, who either purchase something else or invest it in a bank/stock. What it does is reduce the profit of those corporations, which may make their business unsustainable and lead to this market shrinking, which may cause economic instability while people reo…

Well my friends who pirate just hoard the money they would otherwise be spending. If you're at the point where spending on entertainment would come out of money, that you would otherwise spend on something more worthwhile, you shouldn't be watching movies and listening to music in the first place! You should be working and bettering your economic position! Not everyone can afford to have fun and that's ok. Some peopl…

Clearly the poor are such degenerate creatures they should only be working.

Re: Telegram is the hot new source for pirated content

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Post by barking » Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 11:15 AM UTC

Void_ wrote: post #46

barking wrote: post #31

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[OT] And when your app only costs a dollar to begin with, then people feel justified to pirate it, because it's basically worthless crap anyway or you'd charge more.

So it’s okay to steal chewing gum because it’s cheap and probably crap?

That's a physical product, that's proper stealing, is that!

Re: Telegram is the hot new source for pirated content

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Post by LOLCAT1024 » Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 1:04 PM UTC

Asooka wrote: post #51

Sacho wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Er, how does it weaken the economy? The money that the corporations don't get doesn't actually vanish in a puff of smoke, it's still in posession of economic actors, who either purchase something else or invest it in a bank/stock. What it does is reduce the profit of those corporations, which may make their business unsustainable and lead to this market shrinking, which may cause economic instability while people reo…

Well my friends who pirate just hoard the money they would otherwise be spending. If you're at the point where spending on entertainment would come out of money, that you would otherwise spend on something more worthwhile, you shouldn't be watching movies and listening to music in the first place! You should be working and bettering your economic position! Not everyone can afford to have fun and that's ok. Some peopl…

I congratulate you on winning the genetic lottery.

Do you have any suggestions on the prefered skin color or ethnicity of the people who need to be workers ?

Re: Telegram is the hot new source for pirated content

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Post by gandhium » Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 2:04 PM UTC

HenryBemis wrote: post #15

> Law-abiding citizens: Please do NOT download. Thank you. I am not for piracy, but yes, let's all keep using SMS which has been compromised (and not fixed) for the last 30 years, and let's not use anything that gives us any security/privacy. All because some 0.001% of all users are stupid. Thanks but no thanks Mr theoutline.com > “Telegram is also very popular here,” a Russia-based channel owner I remember reading/w…

> Who does this article really work for?

Judging from number of Russian references - I'd say it's trying to whitewash recent Telegram ban. Like "See - it was all piracy, bad Telegram, bad!"

Re: Telegram is the hot new source for pirated content

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Post by milesvp » Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 2:57 PM UTC

Asooka wrote: post #51

Sacho wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Er, how does it weaken the economy? The money that the corporations don't get doesn't actually vanish in a puff of smoke, it's still in posession of economic actors, who either purchase something else or invest it in a bank/stock. What it does is reduce the profit of those corporations, which may make their business unsustainable and lead to this market shrinking, which may cause economic instability while people reo…

Well my friends who pirate just hoard the money they would otherwise be spending. If you're at the point where spending on entertainment would come out of money, that you would otherwise spend on something more worthwhile, you shouldn't be watching movies and listening to music in the first place! You should be working and bettering your economic position! Not everyone can afford to have fun and that's ok. Some peopl…

Lol. Do they keep their hoarded money under a matress? If it's in a bank account it's being actively used. It actually doesn't matter whether the money is in your friend's bank account or some corporate bank account, the money is still being lent out, and used to grow capital. It's fundamental to how fractional banking works.

As for people affording to have fun, my experience is that the working class aren't using entertainment to have fun, so much as they're using it to dull the pain and tedium of a fairly shitty existence.

I tend to agree that one should tend to work to improve one's life, but never forget that actively finding content to watch is work. And having access to a large library of digital media is something no amount of money could afford 100 years ago. And lets not forget how cheap super computers are that even homeless people tend to have one in their pocket. So, yeah econonic position matters, I guess.