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Re: Encoding data into dubstep drops

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Post by anamexis »

overcast wrote: post #12
aristocles wrote: post #2

Very cool. I suspect there is something unique going on with dubstep "drops" and dopamine release. There is a reason it engages peoples basest systems.

"drops" have their equivalent in every other form of music. Breakdowns in hardcore, choruses in pop music, it's just a catchy part of any tune that people easily grab onto.

Drops certainly have equivalents in other music, but I don't think those are good comparisons.

I don't think the defining feature of drops is their catchiness, but the slowly building tension and sudden release.

Re: Encoding data into dubstep drops

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Post by cat199 »

anamexis wrote: post #21
overcast wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"drops" have their equivalent in every other form of music. Breakdowns in hardcore, choruses in pop music, it's just a catchy part of any tune that people easily grab onto.

Drops certainly have equivalents in other music, but I don't think those are good comparisons. I don't think the defining feature of drops is their catchiness, but the slowly building tension and sudden release.

> Drops certainly have equivalents in other music, but I don't think those are good comparisons.

seriously?

dubstep is just 'another' form of eletctronic dance music..

and, to be opinionated, basically rhythmically dumbed-down drum&bass which itself is rhythmically dumbed down jungle which itself is rhythmically more complicated hardcore techno minus the 4-to-the-floor bass drums of the 'main' tune...

also: get off my lawn. :b

Re: Encoding data into dubstep drops

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Post by gsich »

plussed_reader wrote: post #23

Great article about encoding; this is similar to the DRM the PS3 uses on video content. It's a low bit rate signal, but after enough time of the movie playing enough bits are generated to trigger the DRM flag and stop playback.

Cinavia is similar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinavia

Can't find stuff about Digital Restriction Management for the PS3, you sure there was something inside the video stream?

Re: Encoding data into dubstep drops

#25

Post by jstanley »

ixtli wrote: post #20

worth noting that causing a speaker to vibrate around .5 and -.5 for a bit and then quickly swapping might mess with high end hardware. super cool though.

Surely it's more likely to mess with low-end speakers?

Wouldn't high-end speakers be built to withstand anything within their operating range?

Re: Encoding data into dubstep drops

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Post by mistercow »

gelo wrote: post #10
mirap wrote: post #7

How about mp3 (or other) compression? Would not the information be lost?

the codecs in most lossy compression formats usually nuke the phase information so here in this example as ASK is being used there isnt any lost of information. If he tried to encode phase changes in the sound then you wouldnt recover it since the decoder regenerates the audio with 0 deg phase.

What do you mean by "nuke the phase information"?

Re: Encoding data into dubstep drops

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Post by Avery3R »

jstanley wrote: post #25
ixtli wrote: post #20

worth noting that causing a speaker to vibrate around .5 and -.5 for a bit and then quickly swapping might mess with high end hardware. super cool though.

Surely it's more likely to mess with low-end speakers? Wouldn't high-end speakers be built to withstand anything within their operating range?

They're built to create sound, not hold themselves in one direction for an extended period of time

Re: Encoding data into dubstep drops

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Post by anamexis »

cat199 wrote: post #22
anamexis wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Drops certainly have equivalents in other music, but I don't think those are good comparisons. I don't think the defining feature of drops is their catchiness, but the slowly building tension and sudden release.

> Drops certainly have equivalents in other music, but I don't think those are good comparisons. seriously? dubstep is just 'another' form of eletctronic dance music.. and, to be opinionated, basically rhythmically dumbed-down drum&bass which itself is rhythmically dumbed down jungle which itself is rhythmically more complicated hardcore techno minus the 4-to-the-floor bass drums of the 'main' tune... also: get off m…

I wasn't making any value judgments about dubstep or anything else, I was discussing the definition and semantics of what a 'drop' is.

Re: Encoding data into dubstep drops

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Post by overcast »

anamexis wrote: post #21
overcast wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"drops" have their equivalent in every other form of music. Breakdowns in hardcore, choruses in pop music, it's just a catchy part of any tune that people easily grab onto.

Drops certainly have equivalents in other music, but I don't think those are good comparisons. I don't think the defining feature of drops is their catchiness, but the slowly building tension and sudden release.

That's exactly what breakdowns in hardcore do.

Re: Encoding data into dubstep drops

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Post by vardump »

mistercow wrote: post #26
gelo wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the codecs in most lossy compression formats usually nuke the phase information so here in this example as ASK is being used there isnt any lost of information. If he tried to encode phase changes in the sound then you wouldnt recover it since the decoder regenerates the audio with 0 deg phase.

What do you mean by "nuke the phase information"?

Probably just that mp3 compression loses phase information? As it indeed does.
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