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Re: Hello: A new social network founded by Orkut's creator

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Post by antoniogabriel » Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 5:57 PM UTC

startupflix wrote: post #143

dahidahi1 wrote: post #99

Orkut was so popular in some parts of the world like India that I always wondered why Google thought it better to shut it down. All those orkut users moved to Facebook & made Facebook a hugely popular platform. I hope the same does not happen with Hello.

I am still trying to figure out why Orkut was more popular in India.

Brazilian here. I miss Orkut a lot, enjoyed much more than FB. I had the sense that Orkut lost a lot of users in Brazil right after "The Social Network" hit the brazilian movie theathers. Everyone jumped in the hype then.

Re: Hello: A new social network founded by Orkut's creator

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Post by what_ever » Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 5:59 PM UTC

tw04 wrote: post #170

wenc wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Funded by subscriptions This sounds like it might be a good idea because it seems like it would remove the incentive to monetize personal information, but in practice it creates a barrier to adoption and makes the social network kinda useless. I joined a subscription-based social network that was designed for expats [1]. It was by all-accounts well-designed, well-managed and had everything going for it. But no one…

Amazon could probably make this happen as part of the prime membership. Seems like a natural next step given they've already got the photo portion covered

Except that Prime members still see ads and their data is still collected.

Re: Hello: A new social network founded by Orkut's creator

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Post by zealsham » Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 6:01 PM UTC

I find it funny how the app makers and founder talks about spreading love and meeting people of similar interest but the app is made unavailable for most west African countries .

Re: Hello: A new social network founded by Orkut's creator

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Post by rainbowmverse » Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 6:02 PM UTC

nradov wrote: post #178

jug wrote: post #108

The social network I'd like to try is this: * Funded by subscriptions. * Free from ads. * Since it is not ad dependent, yes, it can also provide a chronological timeline. * Two post types supported: Text and Photo. Because sometimes a photo does tell a thousand words. * Links to websites not supported in posts. Avoids viral proliferation of dumbed down politics, fake news, or stupid memes. If you want to get to the w…

I support subscription funding but most of the rest sounds terrible. When I go scuba diving and post underwater photos on Facebook the likes are useful feedback on whether or not I'm taking good pictures and help me improve as an amateur photographer. Plus I enjoy it when people share my photos. It makes the world a brighter place and hopefully encourages viewers not to trash the ocean.

You might like this Mastodon instance: https://photog.social

Re: Hello: A new social network founded by Orkut's creator

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Post by euyyn » Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 6:04 PM UTC

shafyy wrote: post #176

ttul wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook makes something like $25 per user on average. I’d pay that to Facebook if it meant no advertising and no tracking all year.

That's only in the US and Canada, globally it's more something like $5. And you and I (and probably some more people of HN) would pay that. But 99% of the 2 billion people that use FB wouldn't.

I wouldn't pay a single dollar.

Re: Hello: A new social network founded by Orkut's creator

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Post by fataliss » Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 6:07 PM UTC

Just want to point out that in their ToS, they specify that while you have the option of deleting your User data, they are not responsible in any way for doing so and can't guarantee that you deleting the data will actually delete your data... That's a big no for me right there.

Re: Hello: A new social network founded by Orkut's creator

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Post by adrianwaj » Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 6:23 PM UTC

One of the problems I've seen with FB is invisible followers. A whole bunch of people, possibly very famous people could be following you and you'd never know it. (same with IG)

There must be user-levels on FB, and FB might even be charging money to their most privileged users for various rights you couldn't imagine. Even getting a verified account could cost a lot of money, who knows?

add: actually I just imagined what rights they have: IP theft, made legal.

As soon as you upload something to FB and IG (a photo or text,) it belongs to FB, right?

So say you upload a photo and some famous person likes it and copies it 99% of the way, but they have the permission to do that from FB then it's not theft, right?

But there must be a guilty conscience otherwise why hide the famous person from doing the following in the first place? It's a leaching mentality. You've walked through the jungle and got some leaches stuck to you. Whose fault is that?

Re: Hello: A new social network founded by Orkut's creator

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Post by petee » Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 6:34 PM UTC

SCdF wrote: post #172

jug wrote: post #108

The social network I'd like to try is this: * Funded by subscriptions. * Free from ads. * Since it is not ad dependent, yes, it can also provide a chronological timeline. * Two post types supported: Text and Photo. Because sometimes a photo does tell a thousand words. * Links to websites not supported in posts. Avoids viral proliferation of dumbed down politics, fake news, or stupid memes. If you want to get to the w…

> Links to websites not supported in posts. That seems, with all due respect, bananas. There are loads of reasons to have a link in your post, not least because you may use a third party photo host and you want to link to your holiday snaps without having to copy everything everywhere. Even ignoring that though, you can't share recipes, tracks on youtube, programming blog posts, a cool pair of shoes, a link to a book…

More importantly,links can be used to prove a post is not fake news, i.e. cite your sources

Re: Hello: A new social network founded by Orkut's creator

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 6:35 PM UTC

adrianwaj wrote: post #187

One of the problems I've seen with FB is invisible followers. A whole bunch of people, possibly very famous people could be following you and you'd never know it. (same with IG) There must be user-levels on FB, and FB might even be charging money to their most privileged users for various rights you couldn't imagine. Even getting a verified account could cost a lot of money, who knows? add: actually I just imagined w…

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Re: Hello: A new social network founded by Orkut's creator

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Post by donttrack » Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 6:47 PM UTC

wenc wrote: post #130

jug wrote: post #108

The social network I'd like to try is this: * Funded by subscriptions. * Free from ads. * Since it is not ad dependent, yes, it can also provide a chronological timeline. * Two post types supported: Text and Photo. Because sometimes a photo does tell a thousand words. * Links to websites not supported in posts. Avoids viral proliferation of dumbed down politics, fake news, or stupid memes. If you want to get to the w…

> Funded by subscriptions This sounds like it might be a good idea because it seems like it would remove the incentive to monetize personal information, but in practice it creates a barrier to adoption and makes the social network kinda useless. I joined a subscription-based social network that was designed for expats [1]. It was by all-accounts well-designed, well-managed and had everything going for it. But no one…

How about a model, where it is free to join and then you pay for extra storage or something. Sort of like iCloud.