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Facebook is in the privacy spotlight but should Google be next

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Re: Facebook is in the privacy spotlight but should Google be next

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Not saying Google is a saint, but it's orders of magnitude better at privacy than Facebook: - Malicious actors can't access most Google data has on you. Especially not by releasing psychological quiz app. - Google is not tracking logged out users. New id is assigned to logged out users only for very short periods of time. - Mostly compliant with GDPR for years prior to the regulation being released. The same can't be…

> - Malicious actors can't access most Google data has on you. Especially not by releasing psychological quiz app.

If I remember well, Google was part of PRISM. And it did give data to a malicious state actors. Plus it has analytics, which you can pay to have data on people (although no personal, but personal data from facebook is aggregated and used the same way in the end). Also google let you literally google people to find any data that other service would leak.

It's not as bad, yes. But it's still a lot.

> Google is not tracking logged out users. New id is assigned to logged out users only for very short periods of time.

I'm not an insider, but I would imagine that with android, gmail, chrome, various search tools and google Web APIs (fonts, graphs, analytics...), Google tracks you everywhere, whether you are logged in or not. It doesn't even need a cookie with all the behavioral data it has to fingerprint you.

And it's so big I doubt that any employee inside knows how everything works and everything that is done.

> Search results are much harder to manipulate by malicious actors than Facebook news feed ranking - based on the history of such manipulations.

Now. But they've been at it for more time. I remember the early days of Google, and it was black SEO everywhere. It became only hard to game the system recently. Even when StackOverflow came out, we had so much spammy clones, and it's not that old.

It also came out at the cost of less relevant results: now I can always find instantly what I know I want, but rarely discover something I'm happy I found about that is related to my current search. The bubble is very strong.

Re: Facebook is in the privacy spotlight but should Google be next

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In the age of information, Google obviously has disproportionate power. Society must raise awareness about concentration of power, post more about this topic, demand justice and transparency from the rulers. I think Google workers have special ethical responsibility to demand transparency and trust, organize and resist evil orders. We all have responsibility as a society to demand justice if we want a promising future.

Re: Facebook is in the privacy spotlight but should Google be next

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I absolutely agree Google has a much wider ecosystem they cover: social media with google plus or whatever is left of it, video via YouTube, Images via google Photos, cloud infrastructure via Compute Engine, google work via G Suit, ISP via Google Fiber etc... All these have Term of Services with very broad language they can dragnet collect whatever they want. I don't mind sharing the information and I don't want the…

You say you don't mind sharing information. Do you mind them collecting information about you outside of what you share?

Re: Facebook is in the privacy spotlight but should Google be next

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Google is more dangerous than Facebook. In the later you usually have a persona you pretend to be. But Google knows you better than yourself. You can’t lie to Google. Is your teenage daughter pregnant? Do you have a disease that is socially rejected? Do you want to have an abortion? Are those pimples in your groin an STD? Are you secretly looking for another job? Google probably knows that before you do. And their bu…

Addendum to your creepy quote list:

"I actually think most people don’t want Google to answer their questions. They want Google to tell them what they should be doing next." from 8/10/10 WSJ interview.

Re: Facebook is in the privacy spotlight but should Google be next

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Google tracks online behaviour on an industrial scale. It's baffling how little scrutiny the company faces, least of all from the tech community who often rush to it's defence. (Does a multi-billion dollar company need your defence?) When you create a Google account, you're asked to provide your name, your gender, your date of birth, your location and your mobile phone number. Some of your most personal and private d…

G Suite for Education very clearly doesn't track students using it.

https://edu.google.com/k-12-solutions/privacy-security/

Re: Facebook is in the privacy spotlight but should Google be next

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Google is on the list, but I'm going to break away from the flock and say they shouldn't be next . Credit agencies and data brokers, who facilitate the worst kinds of third-party privacy violation and about whom most people know very little, should go next. Then the government itself. Then Google, and then Amazon. BTW, if you want to have some fun, just try to imagine that the the government's interest in Facebook's…

What about Google's sharing of data with data brokers? Example: the wifi at Starbucks (run by Google) now appears to use Experian's API to verify that your email address exists in Experian's database. I would be surprised if it isn't linking your real identity to your browser fingerprint and/or MAC address. Consumers need the right to use the Internet anonymously.

Once those (often unknown) companies have your MAC address, you can't turn your wifi on within range of a Starbucks without them having the capability to identify you and your location.

See also:

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/607938/google-now-tracks-...

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