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Re: Hello: A new social network founded by Orkut's creator

#101
post #8

Whilst the founder has credibility in this space, I don't see what the problem is they are solving. There are many communities all across the internet, and also in centralised places like Facebook & reddit. Forums still remain hugely popular for niche community operators. The only way social is going to work and be improved going forward is through decentralisation and taking our data out of the hands of a central re…

I don’t understand the decentralized part of your comment. There’s a reason Facebook and perhaps AOL before it was successful - it’s easy and everyone is there. I’m a huge privacy advocate but the decentralized Facebook alternatives are a little wonky for most to get their heads around. Jane Average user could care less about blockchain hosted personal data. In most cases Jane just wants Facebook and is a little worr…

> Jane Average user could care less about blockchain hosted personal data.

Agreed, but judging from the last few weeks, Jane Average apparently does care:

- they have control over their data

- can see the stuff they want

- and can have good blocking tools

Which all require decentralisation (in latter case because open APIs hurt monopolies).

End users don't care about data structures in any system, centralised or not.

Re: Hello: A new social network founded by Orkut's creator

#106

I hate to say this, but it's either a terrible landing page or terrible product I'm seeing here. I totally admire the effort to bring back Orkut, but I don't see any value proposition that makes me want to try this out other than some philosophical words that anyone can say. In fact, I have never seen a product introduced in these philosophical ways succeed. The only signal I get from this is that the creator is naiv…

The first thing I thought was "that's cool, how do you plan on keeping the servers on?"

Re: Hello: A new social network founded by Orkut's creator

#108
The social network I'd like to try is this:

* Funded by subscriptions.

* Free from ads.

* Since it is not ad dependent, yes, it can also provide a chronological timeline.

* Two post types supported: Text and Photo. Because sometimes a photo does tell a thousand words.

* Links to websites not supported in posts. Avoids viral proliferation of dumbed down politics, fake news, or stupid memes. If you want to get to the web or read the news, don't use a social network. They're here for you to be social. As in talk. Chat. Write things about your day. Ask others about their day. You get the picture. Being social.

* Shares or "retweets" not supported. Also to disrupt viral spreading of stuff that is almost never about socializing, and nowadays instead disturbingly often about wanting to be virally spread as a goal in itself.

* And finally... "Likes" not supported. You don't chat with friends at a café to get nods, right? You chat because you have something to say. If what you post is never commented on, yes, you can take it as a hint that you have little interesting to say. You can then choose to ignore that, or not. Comments, a will by others to interact, were always the true "like" anyway. If you write to be "liked", as many on Facebook do, you write for the wrong reasons, at least on a SOCIAL network.

Since it is funded by subscriptions, it ought to lift the quality by this fact alone. Less shitposting. I guess one might say I want a social network. I have yet to see one that is just a social network.

Re: Hello: A new social network founded by Orkut's creator

#109
post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's worse... Once you've signed up through mobile, you can use it from any browser. Makes you wonder why it wants you to sign up on mobile... Wants your phone number? Wants access to you contacts?

A perfectly good explanation is deterring spammers.

I recommend you check out what a click farm looks like: https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=click%20farm

Re: Hello: A new social network founded by Orkut's creator

#110
post #102

Honestly, I don't think I want to join any other free "social network" after what happened and still happens at Facebook. I would be okay to pay for a social network that respect my privacy and that would be limited in features like status, photos and groups.

This is also a comically bad time to release yet another social network, as you've pointed out with the current atmosphere surrounding Facebook.
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