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Hello: A new social network founded by Orkut's creator

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Re: Hello: A new social network founded by Orkut's creator

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Post by unclebucknasty »

emblaegh wrote: post #53
unicornporn wrote: post #47

> hello is the first social network built on loves, not likes. I'm sorry, but this sounds like a joke to me. Loves instead of likes? Is this the first thing you want to say about your born again social network. > I designed hello to help you connect with people who share your passions. Sound very much like the “Facebook has always been about helping people make connections” mantra. So, I guess it's Facebook with love…

I thought the same, but the portuguese version of the text offer a different view: > hello is the first social network build on profound friendships instead of 'likes'. So maybe it is a social network whose focus is people you really know well instead of companies and random people? I dunno, it's still very vague.

>a social network whose focus is people you really know well instead of companies and random people

Funny, that was FB's advantage over MySpace. But, I suppose FB found it too limiting to only monetize real relationships.

Re: Hello: A new social network founded by Orkut's creator

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Post by arcticfox »

emblaegh wrote: post #53
unicornporn wrote: post #47

> hello is the first social network built on loves, not likes. I'm sorry, but this sounds like a joke to me. Loves instead of likes? Is this the first thing you want to say about your born again social network. > I designed hello to help you connect with people who share your passions. Sound very much like the “Facebook has always been about helping people make connections” mantra. So, I guess it's Facebook with love…

I thought the same, but the portuguese version of the text offer a different view: > hello is the first social network build on profound friendships instead of 'likes'. So maybe it is a social network whose focus is people you really know well instead of companies and random people? I dunno, it's still very vague.

I checked and you're right. For launching an entire product, they're really dropping the ball in the first sentence.

I read the English to imply that the network is based on your "loves" (passions, hobbies, goals) but the Portuguese makes it pretty obvious that's not right at all. I have a hard time interpreting the English in any way that matches the Portuguese version.

Re: Hello: A new social network founded by Orkut's creator

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Post by dwighttk »

erikb wrote: post #45
Communitivity wrote: post #19

The founder has an amazing history, and the description of Hello is enticing but vague of what differentiates it. None of that matters for me though, because when I attempted to sign up from my laptop I got the message 'Sorry, we're mobile only'. I see no compelling reason to be mobile-only at full launch. Mobile-first for your MVP with early adopters, yes that makes a great deal of sense. But when a company does a f…

I agree as well that protocols would be the answer. I don't believe in it though. There are two very large groups of people who make every attempt in this direction fail. Yes, even things that apparently succeeded already (like email) are always fighting an uphill battle against these two groups. Group one are the Trumps and Putins. The guys who want to control everything. They always want to centralize everything wi…

to be fair, usually it's not just the "slightest bit of... usability discomfort" but an enormous chunk. (e.g. Mastodon is hilariously complicated and difficult to understand for me and I can't even imagine trying to get my friends to use it.)

Re: Hello: A new social network founded by Orkut's creator

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Post by puzzle »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #62
puzzle wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A perfectly good explanation is deterring spammers.

Easy enough to fake your user agent. Or is it a native app with extra security / checks?

I thought we were talking about phone numbers. They're not impossible to obtain in bulk, but that's much harder than faking user agents.

Re: Hello: A new social network founded by Orkut's creator

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Post by kodablah »

Communitivity wrote: post #19

The founder has an amazing history, and the description of Hello is enticing but vague of what differentiates it. None of that matters for me though, because when I attempted to sign up from my laptop I got the message 'Sorry, we're mobile only'. I see no compelling reason to be mobile-only at full launch. Mobile-first for your MVP with early adopters, yes that makes a great deal of sense. But when a company does a f…

> social protocols are the answer

While true, they probably won't be the first answer. You need a some of these networks with real traction (or at least one huge one) so they can derive a protocol from the greatest common factors between them. To preemtively make a protocol sans popular implementation has little value and often ends in low adoption. As we've learned, the success of a protocol is more about its popularity than its presence or quality. So I say let these networks gestate and once the market (of people, not money) starts picking winners, then begin your abstraction.

And for those (of us) working on solutions to this problem space now, keep going. You don't need a committee or standards doc or whatever. You just need an awesome impl.

Re: Hello: A new social network founded by Orkut's creator

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Post by deanclatworthy »

rubyfan wrote: post #8
deanclatworthy wrote: post #2

Whilst the founder has credibility in this space, I don't see what the problem is they are solving. There are many communities all across the internet, and also in centralised places like Facebook & reddit. Forums still remain hugely popular for niche community operators. The only way social is going to work and be improved going forward is through decentralisation and taking our data out of the hands of a central re…

I don’t understand the decentralized part of your comment. There’s a reason Facebook and perhaps AOL before it was successful - it’s easy and everyone is there. I’m a huge privacy advocate but the decentralized Facebook alternatives are a little wonky for most to get their heads around. Jane Average user could care less about blockchain hosted personal data. In most cases Jane just wants Facebook and is a little worr…

I agree. The whole issue with the first decentralised networks at the moment are their usability and accessibility to the average person. There’s a lot of work to be done on this. There are 1000s of people tackling the problem globally from the protocol level to the user interfaces.

My point is these networks will and need to replace the centralised social model which is what this new network is.

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