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That's not what the Tesla system says when you turn it on, every time.
But check out my Full Self Driving AP2 hardware, driving coast to coast! You can even ask your car to earn you money on Tesla Network! Tesla Autopilot twice as safe as humans in 2016! Sentient AI will kill humans! That is exactly what the CEO says
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And my issue with your statements is that you're trying to have it both ways: you're claiming both that "there is no problem" and "Tesla told him about the problem so it's his fault". You have to pick one.
Nowhere do I say there is no problem so I’m not sure why you’re quoting that. I acknowledge there may be a problem since he shouldn’t have been using autopilot on that known problematic strip of road.
Tesla don't make preconditions on where to use their autopilot. How many Tesla's discover a new 'problematic' strip of road each day? Is every first Tesla to drive down a new road to become a crash-test dummy when it turns out the autopilot just can't handle that next bend in the road?
It's absurd to think so. The product is not fit for purpose. I'm confident the law would agree.
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No. You don't put beta features in that have life on the line. People always laugh at ridiculous warning labels, saying not to stick a fork in a toaster, or not to do something else obvious. Funny as it is, they are there for a reason, and it's not a corporations sense of humor. Tesla is the opposite of that, more or less advertising a feature that could kill you. It should be illegal, and if not, they'll eventually…
This is exactly the point why I will never understand people in US and the sort of thing with labels and warnings. You don't microwave a cat just because there is no warning label saying you cannot do that. You do not dry your hair submerged in a bath just because there's no warning label. And knowing how imperfect and faulty this system is (which is what the family says the driver told them), I would avoid engaging…
It's because of the legal system and how easy it is to sue for stuff. It's easier to stick a label on than fight a court case. The US leads the world in the number of court cases https://tentmaker.org/Quotes/lawyers-per-capita.html
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I did think about that. Though, as a driver, you're supposed to leave enough room for this to happen, I know that's not reality so point taken. With early enough 'im confused', perhaps it can just blare an alarm and disable auto drive. Still, given the option between the two, I'd choose come to a stop vs any alternative. It's what a human would do if they lost all visibility.
> I'd choose come to a stop vs any alternative. It's what a human would do if they lost all visibility. As a human who has driven in central valley fog? it's not what most humans do. I personally pull over if I can't see two seconds ahead while going above 45, because most people are still going 65-75mph even when you cant see the lines on the road 20 yards in front of you. I'm also uncomfortable with that, afraid so…
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Tesla's autopilot page ( https://www.tesla.com/autopilot ) says (as of today): Full Self-Driving Hardware on All Cars All Tesla vehicles produced in our factory, including Model 3, have the hardware needed for full self-driving capability at a safety level substantially greater than that of a human driver.
That seems like an incredibly misleading way to market it. I could throw a LIDAR[0] and some cameras on my car and say "wow I have all the hardware necessary for autonomy". That's irrelevant if self-driving is dependent on some software updates that are coming at an unspecified point in the future (or gradually over time, with some surprise regressions like this one along the way). [0] Tesla thinks they'll have full…
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This is exactly the point why I will never understand people in US and the sort of thing with labels and warnings. You don't microwave a cat just because there is no warning label saying you cannot do that. You do not dry your hair submerged in a bath just because there's no warning label. And knowing how imperfect and faulty this system is (which is what the family says the driver told them), I would avoid engaging…
Are you not trusting the engineers who manufactured your cars internal computer system, brakes, etc? What about bridges or elevators? Tesla markets their vehicles are self-driving cars that are safer than humans, this is dishonest.
This is so frustrating to me. 50 years ago we had the ability to fly to the moon. A played out trope, sure. But today we can't even do a basic 'dont run into shit' on a perfectly clear day. Physics in this way is and has been a solved problem for decades. The fact that people are dying from hitting stationary objects should be criminal. At lightest, they should bar these companies from even participating.
>But today we can't even do a basic 'dont run into shit' on a perfectly clear day. so,uh, the emergency braking systems on other cars...so called 'AEB' systems, or what Honda calls Collision Mitigation Braking System... would that have caught this? I would expect this sort of thing "big object in road" to trigger the AEB system... even if it didn't stop me, I'd expect it to trigger before the collision and slow me do…
Tesla's system demands more from drivers than manual driving. The driver has to detect automation failures after they occur, but before a crash. This requires faster reaction time than merely avoiding obstacles. Here's a good example - a Tesla on autopilot crashing into a temporary road barrier which required a lane change.[1] This is a view from the dashcam of the vehicle behind the Tesla. At 00:21, things look norm…
> Tesla's system demands more from drivers than manual driving. This is a great point. With regular cars, drivers can reliably predict where the car will be after 5 seconds. However, with Tesla, there is really no way to know what the auto-driver will do, and so the driver has to stay even more attentive to ensure that it does not do something wrong. It's like driving a car that is not under your control, and may go…
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In the article I posted it mentions that of the 56% of pilots who admitted falling asleep, 29% also admitted to having woken up to a sleeping copilot. There is no path from Autopilot as it is to full autonomy without doing a major shift in strategy. Google figured out very early on that the incremental approach is unfeasible. Most of the other big car companies at the outset were intending to develop autonomy increme…
Why aren't major shifts in strategy possible? LIDAR may become very cheap (i.e. $1000, much less than drivers paid for the full self-driving package). Improvements in radar may also help. Requiring much lower speeds (driving like a Waymo grandma) and specific conditions (i.e. dry, well-lit, well-mapped) are also feasible. As the technology improves, conditions can be relaxed for full self-driving. The very fact that…
This is what I have been thinking as well, except it appears that Tesla doesn't currently have a way to handle such scenarios.
Ideally, they should be recording when a driver makes a sharp swerve to correct autopilot's naïve lane marker following algorithm, then use that information to inform future drives using autopilot on that stretch by disabling autopilot as that patch of road is approached, while they work on a reliable fix.