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Facebook Data Collected by Quiz App Included Private Messages

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And when I’m done doing that, I should probably check my sanity, because I have to be imagining this thread. It’s absurd that someone thinks that they have an expectation of privacy when they voluntarily choose to send a message to someone else. I know you can’t satisfy everyone all the people all the time, but this idea is just bonkers.

> It’s absurd that someone thinks that they have an expectation of privacy when they voluntarily choose to send a message to someone else. How does this world view reconcile with the fact that many different states have 2 party consent? Or the fact that considerable money and effort have been spent on concepts like OTR? People expect others to have some discretion in what private information they pass on to others. M…

You are missing the point I am making. People are bartering with Facebook and using your private conversation with your contributions to do it. They ought to have no right to that data for their economic prosperity.

This isn't your nana forwarding chain mail.

Re: Facebook Data Collected by Quiz App Included Private Messages

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Why is it surprising or even remotely controversial that an app that people explicitly authorized to access their messages (informed consent) then proceeded to access their messages? The app didn't have access to friends' messages, so I don't see what the issue is here, other than yet another clickbait headline.

When it comes to permissions and electronic privacy, consumers don't understand how things work, so they aren't really giving consent. And many aspects of the modern Internet are designed to trick them.

Therefore we must regulate the internet to the tastes of the most paranoid person in existence, because anyone less paranoid is clearly incompetent to give consent?

Re: Facebook Data Collected by Quiz App Included Private Messages

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So you would also like to impose a ban on email forwarding then right? Because that means the person who received your message took it, and exposed it to others that you didn't authorize. I can tell you that at least in the US, legally, your position doesn't hold water. We're getting a little ridiculous here. There are valid complaints against Facebook in all of this - this just doesn't happen to be one of them.

With GDPR, you may get in hot water pretty quick when forwarding thoughtlessly. At least in a corporate setting, you may think twice about it. Edited to add: Granting for instance access to your contacts fro an app is controversial from a legal perspective in Europe. Data protection agencies at least in Germany have the opinion that you need opt-in consent from everybody in the address book to do that.

When the first person goes to prison for restoring an iCloud backup, I hope we’ll collectively realize how insane that is.

Re: Facebook Data Collected by Quiz App Included Private Messages

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A neutral discussion on surveillance and adtech cannot happen here because of the makeup of the audience. It's undeniable too many people from the SV tech community are deeply vested in the business either as workers of Google, Facebook or part of the large multi billion dollar ad ecosystem. The fact is tech people made pompous claims about liberty and freedom and then sold out the moment they had personal gain. This…

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Re: Facebook Data Collected by Quiz App Included Private Messages

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On one hand it's actually a fairly reasonable API. Imagine using third-party AIM clients a decade or more ago. Same kind of thing.

They never provided ability to send messages. This is a useless thing for AIM clients.

Actually they did. I used the old OSX iChat to message with friends on FB.

Other third party applications had that ability as well.

Re: Facebook Data Collected by Quiz App Included Private Messages

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Then you better go protest at Google's offices, because Gmail allows apps to interact with your email too.

by using Gmail, you are allowing Google to scrape what might otherwise be private messages

Indeed, and I am going to stop using Gmail as a result of this thread.

Re: Facebook Data Collected by Quiz App Included Private Messages

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For people I've discussed with, the surprising part is that they can do anything with it. You and I know that (currently) if someone has the data, they'll scrape/manipulate it at will. I believe, a reasonable person, would expect the limits of the access grant to end with the purpose of the app (a quiz) and not extend any further. Most contracts/agreements have limits and this one is implicit in the working of the ap…

I mean, just because I give the keys of my apartment to an electrician for a day doesn't mean they can use my apartment as they please and host a party for all their friends in the afternoon before I get back.

Yeah, but you just signed a contract that allows him to host a party in your apartment. So it means exactly that.

Re: Facebook Data Collected by Quiz App Included Private Messages

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Why is it surprising or even remotely controversial that an app that people explicitly authorized to access their messages (informed consent) then proceeded to access their messages? The app didn't have access to friends' messages, so I don't see what the issue is here, other than yet another clickbait headline.

Because it takes a real piece of shit to ask a total retard: "Hey, buddy, can I stab you in the back?" ...and then blame the retard for bleeding out. As if a total fucking retard would ever say no.

If you keep posting like this we'll ban the account.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Facebook Data Collected by Quiz App Included Private Messages

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by using Gmail, you are allowing Google to scrape what might otherwise be private messages

Indeed, and I am going to stop using Gmail as a result of this thread.

not sure if you're being sarcastic, but you really should. Everyone should. It will cost about $5/mo [fastmail] to make it happen, unfortunately most people don't seem to assign much value to privacy.
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