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Facebook Can’t Be Fixed, It Needs to Be Broken Up

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Re: Facebook Can’t Be Fixed, It Needs to Be Broken Up

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post #34

That's the least rational thing I've ever seen. Look at what happened to Bell. Forced corporate breakups are the dumbest thing possible.

What would be a better way to deal with monopolies? Surely the breakup of Bell is better than if they were allowed to continue as a monopoly right?

What's the problem with the breakup of bell? The fact that they slowly all merged back together again?

Re: Facebook Can’t Be Fixed, It Needs to Be Broken Up

#42

There is a very simple alternative to Facebook: don’t use Facebook. That’s the competition. There is nothing quite the same but there are lots of other things to do online.

There is a strong draw for many of us. It's the only reasonable way I have to see pictures and updates from my family that's pretty far flung across the world. Convincing all my kids, grandkids, siblings, cousins, in laws, nieces, nephews, etc to move away from FB isn't really practical. I do use FB mostly read only, but there isn't really a way for me to leave.

Re: Facebook Can’t Be Fixed, It Needs to Be Broken Up

#43
post #29

I don't see how breaking up Facebook changes the fact that companies are financially incentivized to track and sell as much information on their customers as possible. Whether a monopoly or a collection of small companies, people follow incentives.

And honestly one larger company with a set of privacy controls would be a lot easier for users to manage than dozens of smaller sites with their own settings.

Re: Facebook Can’t Be Fixed, It Needs to Be Broken Up

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post #29

I don't see how breaking up Facebook changes the fact that companies are financially incentivized to track and sell as much information on their customers as possible. Whether a monopoly or a collection of small companies, people follow incentives.

Agreed, I wish governments would ban something like diamonds in wedding rings instead. Like Facebook, we don't need diamonds to survive. Diamonds have been a the cause of much conflict in Africa.

I wish governments would ban weddings. We don’t need weddings to survive and they cause so many conflicts around the world.

Re: Facebook Can’t Be Fixed, It Needs to Be Broken Up

#45
Broken up into what exactly? If you don't like Facebook don't use it. How about the Senate and the internet outrage machine spend time on companies like Equifax instead, who (1) we literally cannot opt out of, (2) have private data that we didn't choose to share with them, and (3) have broken actual laws but haven't received as much as a slap on the wrist for it.

Re: Facebook Can’t Be Fixed, It Needs to Be Broken Up

#47
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would be a better way to deal with monopolies? Surely the breakup of Bell is better than if they were allowed to continue as a monopoly right?

Not at all, actually! Ever heard of Verizon, AT&T, and Centurylink? All of them came from the Bell breakup. Bell used to do things that were cool as fuck ; post-breakup, prices rose for everyone, and innovation stopped really happening. Monopolies aren't inherently bad - especially not ones like Bell, where they're beneficial to everyone.

>post-breakup, prices rose for everyone

Any citations for this? The rise of MCI cut my phone bills by more than half in the 80's. Bell was killing us with 3 figure/month residential phone bills. And, I pay 10x less now per month in non inflation adjusted dollars than I did in 1986.

Out of state calls back then were commonly double digit cents per minute. Now they are typically 1 cent per minute or even less.

Re: Facebook Can’t Be Fixed, It Needs to Be Broken Up

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would be a better way to deal with monopolies? Surely the breakup of Bell is better than if they were allowed to continue as a monopoly right?

Not at all, actually! Ever heard of Verizon, AT&T, and Centurylink? All of them came from the Bell breakup. Bell used to do things that were cool as fuck ; post-breakup, prices rose for everyone, and innovation stopped really happening. Monopolies aren't inherently bad - especially not ones like Bell, where they're beneficial to everyone.

> prices rose for everyone

Prices for long-distance calls fell.

Re: Facebook Can’t Be Fixed, It Needs to Be Broken Up

#49
post #42

There is a very simple alternative to Facebook: don’t use Facebook. That’s the competition. There is nothing quite the same but there are lots of other things to do online.

There is a strong draw for many of us. It's the only reasonable way I have to see pictures and updates from my family that's pretty far flung across the world. Convincing all my kids, grandkids, siblings, cousins, in laws, nieces, nephews, etc to move away from FB isn't really practical. I do use FB mostly read only, but there isn't really a way for me to leave.

you would live a longer, healthier life without those pictures, at least as presented in that medium. How many pictures of kids covered in chocolate cake do you need?
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