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My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app

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Re: My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app

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Post by AngellPetter »

buro9 wrote: post #55

I'm the author and linking to my tweets is a bad idea because they auto-delete after 14 days. For future HN context, as the author I'm reproducing them here in full: My @Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app from https://samba.tv and boy oh boy... this is worse than recent @facebook stuff. From their own privacy policy: https://samba.tv/legal/privacy-policy/ … they track what you w…

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Re: My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app

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Post by stuaxo »

gerdesj wrote: post #356
buro9 wrote: post #55

I'm the author and linking to my tweets is a bad idea because they auto-delete after 14 days. For future HN context, as the author I'm reproducing them here in full: My @Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app from https://samba.tv and boy oh boy... this is worse than recent @facebook stuff. From their own privacy policy: https://samba.tv/legal/privacy-policy/ … they track what you w…

I do put TVs on a separate VLAN and also cameras, phones, IoT stuff (those get the SEWER VLAN). I run a pfSense router and am seriously considering SSL splice in Squid in transparent mode for some of that lot. SSL Splice is nearly a MitM but does not need trustable faked SSL certificates, but you do get more logging and the ability to make certain URLs vanish. Now if the security of the device is crap enough to belie…

Is it possible to do this and have samba shares available on this VLAN and the standard VLAN at the same time ?

Re: My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app

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Post by rsync »

buro9 wrote: post #76
pwg wrote: post #70

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Solution: don't ever purchase a smart TV. Preferably, no one would ever purchase a smart TV. When smart TV sales go to zero, the makers would get the message. Sadly, too many folks don't know, or if they do know, they don't care.

Try it. I did. I couldn't find a non-smart TV. They are everywhere. If you want the 4k, then you have a smart TV. The best alternatives were super large monitors (way over the price of a TV, and with no decent sound built in), or corporate display panels (for advertising, signage, etc) whose prices are also way above a TV and include no sound system at all.

" ... or corporate display panels ..."

Exactly. A commercial display / signage display is indeed what you need to buy if you want a "dumb" TV.

Not only are they as dumb as dumb gets but they are highly reliable and usually fairly rugged.

Many of them have an expansion card slot which allows you to change the inputs - you could remove your 2x HDMI card and insert an SCART card instead, for instance.

Finally, if you get a video wall model, you'll get near-zero bezel.

They're not that expensive - how could they be if they are being purchased twelve at a time for display walls ? Yes, they are more than $399 + mail-in rebate from Frys.

It's worth it.

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Post by ntsplnkv2 »

paulie_a wrote: post #65
coldtea wrote: post #48

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By definition, if they are actually accepted by their customers, then yes, they are. And since customers continue to buy PS4s it appears that they are (accepted).

It's a classic bait and switch. The buyer didn't agree to get a bunch of stupid bullshit ads after they purchased it.

Yep, exactly. It's a shame how anti-consumer everyone on here has become.

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Post by paulie_a »

Can_Not wrote: post #142
JasonFruit wrote: post #86

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All those things can be easily turned off, but yes, that's not right.

And just as easily, Microsoft will turn them back on for you.

And in fact they do turn them back on. Every fucking time I boot into windows their obnoxious office ads get re-enabled after an update.

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Post by zeep »

poizan42 wrote: post #296
ddalex wrote: post #229

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> maybe cellular networks Now you're getting me paranoid.

That would probably cost too much. At least I hope so.

Amazon used to provide free networking for its readers... I think that it is very cheap to transfer text/"meta-data"... It might even be sponsored by the government...

Re: My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app

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Post by tass »

jghn wrote: post #223
tass wrote: post #205

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What brand of TV?

Samsung, from about 4 years ago I think

I had a Samsung plasma TV about that long ago and it started to show notifications every time it turned on that some service I never used was being decommissioned.

Same experience as https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/TVs/Annoying-notificatio... but with a different notification.

I don't think I'll buy a Samsung TV again after that, and I don't connect any TV to the internet anymore.

Re: My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app

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Post by rmstallman »

When a device or system is described as "smart", read "spy". See stallman.org/articles/what-mary-had.html.

I wouldn't allow anything "smart" in my home, and I urge you to do the same. As for Netflix, I refuse to let a company know what I watch, or tolerate DRM, or agree to a contract not to give, lend or share copies. See stallman.org/netflix.html.

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