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Re: YouTube Face is clickbait, attaining human form

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Post by killjoywashere » Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 1:57 AM UTC

Nition wrote: post #25

jackgolding wrote: post #16

Has anyone else noticed how much this min-maxing is effecting all different areas of the world? I played the last World of Warcraft expansion and got to the stage where I could start raiding (Blizzard is trying to make this easier to break into for casual players) and 95% of raiders only wanted to raid with those who had already done the raid before and had an item level higher than anything the raid drops! I find th…

I feel like the unfortunate part is that the most visibility-optimised content isn't often the same thing as the best content. So if you just set out to make a Good Thing it gets lost, unless you also do other things that are seemingly unnecessary (like adding a silly face to your YouTube preview).

I feel like the unfortunate part is that my kids are far more certain that "YouTuber" is a viable career than "physicist".

Re: YouTube Face is clickbait, attaining human form

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Post by __s » Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 2:07 AM UTC

mattbierner wrote: post #30

This post made me want to re-read "You Are Not a Gadget." One of Lanier's points in that book is that technology can both augment expression and bound it. The Like Button is a classic example of bounding because it reduces your thoughts and feelings about a piece of content to a thumbs up, whereas a simple textbox would let you note whatever you want about the content (text is also harder to monetize and analyze and…

Quality over quantity. Seek ten views that let you engage with another human being rather than however many views which will never let you really make contact

Re: YouTube Face is clickbait, attaining human form

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Post by kelukelugames » Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 2:08 AM UTC

I hate that face so much. I always assumed it appeals to a younger crowd but then I have friends my age who use similar profile pics on facebook.

Re: YouTube Face is clickbait, attaining human form

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Post by doomlaser » Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 2:12 AM UTC

It's the same with App Store icons as well — https://twitter.com/Doomlaser/status/708605183509528576

Re: YouTube Face is clickbait, attaining human form

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Post by fiatpandas » Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 2:14 AM UTC

mattbierner wrote: post #30

This post made me want to re-read "You Are Not a Gadget." One of Lanier's points in that book is that technology can both augment expression and bound it. The Like Button is a classic example of bounding because it reduces your thoughts and feelings about a piece of content to a thumbs up, whereas a simple textbox would let you note whatever you want about the content (text is also harder to monetize and analyze and…

>it still feels weird to see ordinary people

For me this is where these YT tropes get interesting. When you get past the thumbnails of the mega channels with multiple full time employees who are obviously doing something very baity and strategic, you’re left with the ordinary channels who mimic these tropes likely without deep consideration or even consciousness.

It’s just more of a will to survive kind of thing, and thus an entire ecosystem shapes its own desires by way of unknowingly optimizing for an algorithm which itself is based on honing in on community trends.

Re: YouTube Face is clickbait, attaining human form

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Post by mmaunder » Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 2:39 AM UTC

The second last paragraph is a thing of beauty.

Re: YouTube Face is clickbait, attaining human form

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Post by hartator » Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 2:42 AM UTC

A good solution will be to go back to have the thumbnail a pick of the actual video not an over-engineered art form.

Re: YouTube Face is clickbait, attaining human form

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Post by CydeWeys » Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 2:53 AM UTC

Funny how I recently started realizing how obnoxious this was. And now to see someone explicitly talking about it is really making it click into place.

Here's the exact channel that caused me to realize: https://www.youtube.com/user/Davie504

Re: YouTube Face is clickbait, attaining human form

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Post by gitgud » Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 3:13 AM UTC

aphextron wrote: post #4

Alternatively, it serves as a pretty good filter for content I will actively try to avoid. Playing a video and immediately hearing that "HEY GUYS" voice makes me click the back button instantly, and block the channel.

Or the more common

    WHAT'S up guys, today we're ...

I guess there's a market for all sorts of content, but the majority of the YouTube's audience (which are kids) dictate these annoying common formats.

Re: YouTube Face is clickbait, attaining human form

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Post by gitgud » Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 3:14 AM UTC

aidenn0 wrote: post #6

aphextron wrote: post #4

Alternatively, it serves as a pretty good filter for content I will actively try to avoid. Playing a video and immediately hearing that "HEY GUYS" voice makes me click the back button instantly, and block the channel.

Can we perhaps combine all of the clickbait memes into a single form? "One weird trick to find the 13 most extreme reaction faces to mundane topics (you won't believe how number 5 lets you make money from home!)"

Plus

    COPS CALLED!! (NOT CLICKBAIT)