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Mark Zuckerberg testifies before Congress

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg testifies before Congress

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

misiti3780 wrote: post #41

"Is it true facebook can track user browsers even after they are logged out of facebook?" Zuck: "I need to get back to you on that"

Honestly is there anyway that he could explain the Facebook Pixel/ad network that wouldn't just be describing any ad network?

By definition, ad tracking (cookies etc...) is opaque to most people and explaining it publicly would make it seem like FB is doing something more nefarious than others.

It's an important discussion but his response would just make FB seem way worse on that specific issue than highlighting how the entire ad network ecosystem works.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg testifies before Congress

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Post by Irishsteve »

mmsimanga wrote: post #74

Am I missing something? Take the Senator who spoke about monopolies. An oil monopoly is bad because we all need to get to work and trains need to run. Microsoft monopoly, arguable but I can see how it can be bad. All companies end up using Microsoft and this affects everyone, hospitals, schools ... Facebook is optional, we won't starve, hospitals won't close, aeroplanes will continue if we delete Facebook. Is this an…

He failed to answer a simple question of who can their users migrate over to when they are not happy. Wonder if that will come back to hurt him.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg testifies before Congress

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Post by mercer »

Interesting. I think what the last guy was trying to ask was whether the data from apps that have facebook analytics (pixel?) installed is cross-referenced with your facebook account. It's a shame he didn't ask it more clearly and allowed Zuck to dodge by saying apps are 'isolated' on the phone.

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Post by isoprophlex »

komali2 wrote: post #31
isoprophlex wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course that glib leech has a thousand advisors backing him, meticulously prepping him for these occasions. He's too big to fail.

Wouldn't you seek advice and meticulously prepare before speaking to congress?

Of course i would. I'd also probably throw up beforehand, at least three times

I'm pretty worried and sour about monolithic things existing that are too big to fail, especially Facebook. It seems suboptimal, but I feel powerless. It mostly felt good to write 'glib leech'.

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Post by fbonetti »

_bxg1 wrote: post #48

It's pretty cringe-y so far. From The Verge's liveblog: "I would liken this hearing so far to a precocious college junior explaining his major to his grandparents at Thanksgiving"

It's a really odd line of questioning from people who don't seem to understand the subject matter. This gem made me laugh out loud:

    Senator: How do you sustain a business model in which users don't pay for your service?
    Zuckerberg (in a disdainful tone): Senator, we run ads.
https://clips.twitch.tv/FantasticCrowdedDelicataPipeHype

Edit: I directly transcribed the exchange

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Post by hungerstrike »

komali2 wrote: post #31
isoprophlex wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course that glib leech has a thousand advisors backing him, meticulously prepping him for these occasions. He's too big to fail.

Wouldn't you seek advice and meticulously prepare before speaking to congress?

No. I’d just tell them what I know and what I don’t know. The truth.

And I wouldn’t feel nervous at all. Furthermore, I’d give their obtuse questions the treatment that they deserve.

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Post by oh_sigh »

baalimago wrote: post #58
misiti3780 wrote: post #41

"Is it true facebook can track user browsers even after they are logged out of facebook?" Zuck: "I need to get back to you on that"

There's so many "I need to get back to you on that".

It's a good strategy, all the media coverage is about his actual testimony today, whereas when he sends an update to the committee next week, it will not make as big of a splash as this one.
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