Things like: What's your favorite vacation spot? What's your favorite food?
Often you're stuck having to choose between something other people know or can figure out (where you were born) and something that may well change over time.
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Things like: What's your favorite vacation spot? What's your favorite food?
Often you're stuck having to choose between something other people know or can figure out (where you were born) and something that may well change over time.
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I do this too, I was told to add something like "PLEASE MATCH THIS TEXT, THIS IS NOT A RANDOM STRING" at the beginning. Apparently when some very incompetent bank workers ask your security questions if the frauder says "oh it was just a random string, I do not remember" they give access to your account.
> Apparently when some very incompetent bank workers ask your security questions if the frauder says "oh it was just a random string, I do not remember" they give access to your account. This has actually worked for me more than once, so...yeah. I find nonsense/ridiculous answers to be safer than than random letters. Make and model of first car? 2047 MAIBATSU MONSTROSITY Where did you meet the love of your life? A ME…
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Another option is an XKCD-inspired[1] 'correct horse battery staple' passphrase. I understand that using such passphrases in other contexts like encryption is controversial due to their relatively low entropy, but I think customer support is an ideal application for them. 1. https://xkcd.com/936/
I believe the entropy problem is only that people don’t choose words randomly. I wrote a script to do it for me, with numbers separating words because some websites demand numbers, and assuming the random number generation is suitable, it’s 73 bits of entropy. I have no idea if the random number generation is sufficient: https://github.com/BenWheatley/HighEntropyPassword
Documentation for the random module¹ prominently warns:
The pseudo-random generators of this module should not be used for security purposes. Use os.urandom() or SystemRandom if you require a cryptographically secure pseudo-random number generator.
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I agree, secret questions are dumb... but what are the alternatives? The majority of human beings now manage important parts of their lives online, which means they have to remember passwords. Humans are TERRIBLE at remembering passwords - those of us who use a password manager represent a fraction of a percent of those who need one. Secret questions may be revoltingly insecure, but they do at least let people get ba…
> Humans are TERRIBLE at remembering passwords This is the main problem and we created this problem. Over the last 30 years we worked so hard to make passwords weird and not even that hard for computers to try find. If your password is a sentence that you know by heart, say your favorite quote, the motto of your country, of your school, or some cool fact etc... your password would be (1) safer and (2) easier for you…
A good password has entropy, which is not a property of the alphanumeric string but of the process used to create it. Could your password generation method plausibly have produced 2^60 alternative passwords with equal probability? Probably not.
Also, never reuse passwords.
Also, I can’t believe how stupid some of these sites’ questions are. While I always make up the answers, frequently they require at least 3 questions and only 1 or 2 even apply to me (assuming I answered truthfully)! And one airline wanted FIVE of them!!!
I don't know which annoys me more, the easy to guess security questions or those with mutable answers. Things like: What's your favorite vacation spot? What's your favorite food? Often you're stuck having to choose between something other people know or can figure out (where you were born) and something that may well change over time.
What is your third favorite vacation spot? Would you rather fight a horse-sized duck or 100 duck-sized horses? For how much money would you go to jail for 1 year?
The whole "secret question" thing seemed to me to a completely stupid idea from the start. "Hey, give us password. If you forget your password, give us a much, much less secure way to access your account." I've always given false info to those, when I bother to fill them out at all. If necessary, I just store this false info along with the password in the encrypted file I keep my passwords in. The security questions…
SMS-based 2FA should be avoided as much as possible, since there are many ways to take over a phone number and get a hold of the code. Passwords, while being a huge hassle, is probably going to be the defacto authentication mechanism for sites and services (unfortunately). Maybe some sort of distributed PKI authentication + 2FA combo would be an interesting solution, but the problem would be adoption.
Underlying this, don't ever answer these stupid 'account security' questions truthfully. Better to make something up and store it in your password manager along with other account info. I'd normally be tempted to put in the same types of random passwords I normally use, eg: > What was the name of the street you grew up on? L9Pro840Of9KNIGfKD4tf8tOwTG9Dcqj Unfortunately, I've heard you can talk to customer support and…
Stealing one account at a time is small time hoodlum level sh*t. The pros just download the entire user table in one go. They don't care what your first pet's name was.
I just get this feeling that in the next few decades genetic code may become the pinnacle of biometrics as a part of multi-factor authentication. i.e. something I know, something I have, and something I am.
And DNA databases that are potentially loosely secured, or at least secured as well as credit bureau's data, seem like a great way to unwittingly expose one's future self.
I bring this up because multi-factor authentication still seems to be a struggle to implement well for the masses, and while people here complain about these personal questions being insecure, I can't really think of a reason why genetic code won't become the ubiquitous standard for the vast majority of the population to prove their identity.
Yet here people are giving it away, and even paying for the privilege.