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YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Powered Rivals

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Re: YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Powered Rivals

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You know what's interesting? A Decentralised media platform used to be huge and actually is still huge: Torrents. There's a huge community that consumes media that's not hosted anywhere particular and there are apps like Popcorn Time that offer viewing experience almost as good as Netflix. The problem, of course, is that up until now there was no way to reward the creators and almost all the media consumed on Torrent…

Bitcoin and bit torrent suffer from the same decentralization problem. Centralization will always be cheaper or the system will fail to sustain itself. Either these systems are not profitable to participate in and no one bothers, or it is profitable at which point it will be dominated by key players that either participate in the network or simply launch a centralized competitor. Specialization leads to cost cuttings and the large actors increase their quality, margins and market share squeezing out the decentralized players.

The one caveat to this is that torrents are cool because its a system that can arguably edge cache better than CDN locations but with today's low upload speeds and pings for consumer connections it seems the CDNs do win.

Re: YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Powered Rivals

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That's only because the left+ extremists are tolerated, if not condoned, on the SV run platforms.

That's probably because they're not posting abhorrent content.

Yeah, because 100 million murdered by communists in the 20th century wasn't enough, amirite?

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post #134

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>Youtube loosing anything to blockchain solutions ? >Yeah, in 10 years maybe. I think it's way more likely for Youtube/Google to implement some sort of blockchain based system to reward creators.

I doubt it. That would make it either way too transparent and open, or just a blockchain implementation of a centralized black box.

Blockchain implementations in centralized black boxes are more likely than not the future of blockchain. As soon as regulation gets rolled out usable blockchains will be controlled by governments and/or private companies that comply with the rules. Not that I'm not in favor of a truely decentralized solution but I doubt "they" will allow this to happen.

Re: YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Powered Rivals

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> And no these videos are not being monetized by the creator. How do you know that?

You could upload one yourself and you would get a notice if it gets monetized by the creator.

>You could upload one yourself and you would get a notice if it gets monetized by the creator

It may or it may not; I fail to see how that test would lead you to a conclusion here. You're making an assertion and really you have no idea.

Re: YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Powered Rivals

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post #11

Roughly half of the content is about cryptocurrencies. The other half is stolen content (e.g. https://d.tube/#!/c/nba-highlights ). I don't think YT and FB are sad about losing those types of "creators".

I'll be the guy this time: copyright violation is a different thing from stealing. I'm surprised after so long this meme is still going strong.

Re: YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Powered Rivals

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That's probably because they're not posting abhorrent content.

Yeah, because 100 million murdered by communists in the 20th century wasn't enough, amirite?

Please don't use HN for ideological flamewar. It's off topic here.

Re: YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Powered Rivals

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post #11

Roughly half of the content is about cryptocurrencies. The other half is stolen content (e.g. https://d.tube/#!/c/nba-highlights ). I don't think YT and FB are sad about losing those types of "creators".

I'll be the guy this time: copyright violation is a different thing from stealing. I'm surprised after so long this meme is still going strong.

It's still going because that's the way people talk. You can actually "steal" an idea, even though it's not physically possible to remove the original from the person's mind. You can steal a kiss. You can steal second. Words mean what people use them to mean, and it's a perfectly acceptable use of the word "steal" to mean something like "adopted use of an artifact for the purpose of deriving a benefit rightfully belonging to its creator".

I'm personally surprised the "copyright infringement isn't theft" meme is still going strong.

Re: YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Powered Rivals

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post #11

Roughly half of the content is about cryptocurrencies. The other half is stolen content (e.g. https://d.tube/#!/c/nba-highlights ). I don't think YT and FB are sad about losing those types of "creators".

I'll be the guy this time: copyright violation is a different thing from stealing. I'm surprised after so long this meme is still going strong.

By violating the copyright of the content you are stealing the creators money. I'm surprised the meme that copyright violation is "different" than stealing is still a meme. Yes, copyright violation is not "stealing", but the majority of the time the end result is "stealing" money from the content creators.

Re: YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Powered Rivals

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post #206

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Yeah, because 100 million murdered by communists in the 20th century wasn't enough, amirite?

Please don't use HN for ideological flamewar. It's off topic here.

I doubt you would feel that way if I responded to someone condoning fascism.

Re: YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Powered Rivals

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post #203

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I doubt it. That would make it either way too transparent and open, or just a blockchain implementation of a centralized black box.

Blockchain implementations in centralized black boxes are more likely than not the future of blockchain. As soon as regulation gets rolled out usable blockchains will be controlled by governments and/or private companies that comply with the rules. Not that I'm not in favor of a truely decentralized solution but I doubt "they" will allow this to happen.

Well they never managed to shutdown torrent or tor, so decentralized is still alive and kicking.

But yeah, we are likely to see a lot of people using the "blockchain" label for marketing reason, not using the tech for any of it's benefits.

But that's silly even from a technical point of view: if you don't need decentralization and transparency, then a blockchain is a very poor alternative to a blackbox built on postgress.

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