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ISPs Aim to Use Facebook Fracas to Saddle Silicon Valley with Crappy New Laws

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Silicon Valley needs new laws, accept that, and make the fight about ensuring those laws aren’t burdensome, anticompetitive, and downright stupid. If you spend your energy trying to make those laws not happen at all, they’ll be done to us and not with us. It’s time to accept that a significant (more than 65%) of people want regulations in the tech space, and calmly, patiently explain what kinds of regulations can be helpful and which would be disastrous. Accept that it will be a matter of compromise (at best) and that means no one will be entirely happy.

Re: ISPs Aim to Use Facebook Fracas to Saddle Silicon Valley with Crappy New Laws

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Silicon Valley needs new laws, accept that, and make the fight about ensuring those laws aren’t burdensome, anticompetitive, and downright stupid. If you spend your energy trying to make those laws not happen at all, they’ll be done to us and not with us. It’s time to accept that a significant (more than 65%) of people want regulations in the tech space, and calmly, patiently explain what kinds of regulations can be…

Silicon Valley doesn't need new laws that's bullshit. People and privacy need strong laws that protect them. Irregardless of who's doing it.

Re: ISPs Aim to Use Facebook Fracas to Saddle Silicon Valley with Crappy New Laws

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Silicon Valley needs new laws, accept that, and make the fight about ensuring those laws aren’t burdensome, anticompetitive, and downright stupid. If you spend your energy trying to make those laws not happen at all, they’ll be done to us and not with us. It’s time to accept that a significant (more than 65%) of people want regulations in the tech space, and calmly, patiently explain what kinds of regulations can be…

Silicon Valley doesn't need new laws that's bullshit. People and privacy need strong laws that protect them. Irregardless of who's doing it.

I don’t think they mean literally SV the place. It’s like how “Wall Street” is used as a stand-in for the high finance industry in the US.

Re: ISPs Aim to Use Facebook Fracas to Saddle Silicon Valley with Crappy New Laws

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Silicon Valley needs new laws, accept that, and make the fight about ensuring those laws aren’t burdensome, anticompetitive, and downright stupid. If you spend your energy trying to make those laws not happen at all, they’ll be done to us and not with us. It’s time to accept that a significant (more than 65%) of people want regulations in the tech space, and calmly, patiently explain what kinds of regulations can be…

Silicon Valley doesn't need new laws that's bullshit. People and privacy need strong laws that protect them. Irregardless of who's doing it.

That's a great point.

I need the protection. We don't need to go and start creating huge regulatory bodies around various industries, pitting one against the other. Make it so my information can't be captured -- or it can't be shared. Or make it so that keeping any information of mine past 30 days is a felony.

Then no matter who the businesses are, people can sue them and owners can go to jail.

Instead of trying to figure out exactly where the tech is right now, and how things might change? Bullshit. Protect me. With enough protections, the rest of it will work itself out.

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Silicon Valley doesn't need new laws that's bullshit. People and privacy need strong laws that protect them. Irregardless of who's doing it.

I don’t think they mean literally SV the place. It’s like how “Wall Street” is used as a stand-in for the high finance industry in the US.

right but things like privacy and security are aimed at the entirety of companies that have an online presence. For instance like laws around privacy requirements affect all major companies not just tech companies.

Re: ISPs Aim to Use Facebook Fracas to Saddle Silicon Valley with Crappy New Laws

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think they mean literally SV the place. It’s like how “Wall Street” is used as a stand-in for the high finance industry in the US.

right but things like privacy and security are aimed at the entirety of companies that have an online presence. For instance like laws around privacy requirements affect all major companies not just tech companies.

How do you legally define a tech company?

Re: ISPs Aim to Use Facebook Fracas to Saddle Silicon Valley with Crappy New Laws

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Silicon Valley doesn't need new laws that's bullshit. People and privacy need strong laws that protect them. Irregardless of who's doing it.

That's a great point. I need the protection. We don't need to go and start creating huge regulatory bodies around various industries, pitting one against the other. Make it so my information can't be captured -- or it can't be shared. Or make it so that keeping any information of mine past 30 days is a felony. Then no matter who the businesses are, people can sue them and owners can go to jail. Instead of trying to f…

That’s one position, and you should strenuously fight to see it represented in Congress. By the same token you should accept that it’s almost certainly not going to work out that way, but it might be possible to reach a compromise with your points as central tenants. The argument that regulation should focus on areas where individual protections could fail, and the bulk of legislation should address privacy and data protection is a good idea.

Having said that, try to avoid phrases like, “the rest will work itself out,” which will turn off virtuallly everyone who doesn’t think exactly like you. Remember that this is now an issue the public at large is very interested in, and shape your words for public consumption.

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