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YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Powered Rivals

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Re: YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Powered Rivals

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You know what's interesting? A Decentralised media platform used to be huge and actually is still huge: Torrents. There's a huge community that consumes media that's not hosted anywhere particular and there are apps like Popcorn Time that offer viewing experience almost as good as Netflix. The problem, of course, is that up until now there was no way to reward the creators and almost all the media consumed on Torrent…

You certainly don't need blockchains and distributed databases to reward creators, centralized solutions like Patreon work perfectly fine. If you want Netflix style monetization, that is not a technical problem but a social one, Netflix relies on the concept of copyright. Any community that does not respect copyright will switch to the free alternative, leaving voluntary donations as the only monetization option. May…

Patreon does not work perfectly fine. It has already shown it will ban people it doesn't like.

Part of the promise of distributed, permissionless protocols is the lack of top-down censorship.

Re: YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Powered Rivals

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post #64

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I doubt it. I wouldn't be surprised to see a situation that content creators would pay google for visibility (notifications, showing up in subscribers feeds etc.) in order to satisfy their product placement contracts.

Youtube has been labeling these videos with a paid promotion scrolling warning.

And Instagram has the requirement that creators mark product placements (not sure if they are displayed to end users) and also identify which brands they are advertising, presumably to make brands pay for reach in the future.

Re: YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Powered Rivals

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post #64

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I doubt it. I wouldn't be surprised to see a situation that content creators would pay google for visibility (notifications, showing up in subscribers feeds etc.) in order to satisfy their product placement contracts.

Youtube has been labeling these videos with a paid promotion scrolling warning.

They do that because they have to. https://www.out-law.com/en/articles/2016/july/digital-influe...

Re: YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Powered Rivals

#154
post #78

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I don't agree with your Netflix story. Most people don't prefer free, they prefer convenience. Spotify almost works properly as a centralized platform because almost all music is on there. But I know a few albums that aren't, and it's too bad. For Netflix, I have a subscription. But guess what I do when I want to watch the latest Walking Dead or Game of Thrones. I want it convenient, preferably legal, but most of all…

For Game of Thrones it's not such an issue, but I do feel bad if there's e.g. an old BBC film I want to watch, but there's no way to get it legally, sometimes at all. Other times it's £20 for a DVD. No way I'm paying three months of Netflix subscription (or a large fraction of a license fee) for that. The BBC has such an extensive and amazing back catalogue of content they wholly own. Why they don't chuck it on iPlay…

> The BBC has such an extensive and amazing back catalogue of content they wholly own.

No it doesn't. The BBC wholly owns virtually nothing.

http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20140603125500/htt...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/contributor_rights.shtml?chapte...

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2010/nov/25/bbc-archive-onli...

And more importantly, the things it does wholly own, it very rarely knows, legally, that it does wholly own, as the records aren't reliable. So it would involve a vast amount of legal time and risk to investigate.

Re: YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Powered Rivals

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A lot of that is fully monetized by the copyright owners.

Or the random person who uploaded it.

Youtube automatically identifies almost all copyrighted music when videos are uploaded and copyright owners can decide who will be the one to monetize it. Almost all of the major players have the monetization assigned to themselves.

Re: YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Powered Rivals

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post #15

You know what's interesting? A Decentralised media platform used to be huge and actually is still huge: Torrents. There's a huge community that consumes media that's not hosted anywhere particular and there are apps like Popcorn Time that offer viewing experience almost as good as Netflix. The problem, of course, is that up until now there was no way to reward the creators and almost all the media consumed on Torrent…

This is exactly what TRX (Tronix) cryptocurrency is trying to achieve. They want content creators on their blockchain to distribute content and want to reward them with coin as payment.

https://cryptocurrencynews.com/altcoin/tron-trx/

Re: YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Powered Rivals

#158
post #60

What a load of crap. Major channels are not giving up their enormous paychecks from Google to take a flier on blockchain powered alternatives with no audience on it. The only people switching are people who have a vested interest in everything blockchain or those who are being driven off Youtube by the ad policy changes.

But if the 'little folk' who are affected by the monetization changes find they can make money on Dtube or wherever, who will fill the lower tranches of YouTube? Other than those producing and uploading out of principle and without desire to earn anything. Unless you can ramp quickly to 4,000 hours of viewing per year, YouTube is a penniless grind. Whereas other sites offer pay-per-view right from the first viewer.

Depends on your goals and your audience.

My channel is about guitar stuff, I joined an existing community and am easily finding viewers on Youtube. It might be an uphill battle for me on one of those alternative platforms, and frankly I have no interest in even giving them a shot. I know there's millions of people viewing millions of hours a day on Youtube, and I know how the game is played there.

Those other platforms are unproven and frankly I don't know who's behind them. Just as Google decided to implement policies that favor their advertisers, these blockchain based alternatives may decide anyone with any tweets that can be perceived as being unfriendly towards cryptocurrencies get shut down, just as an example.

The devil you know....

Re: YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Powered Rivals

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post #131

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Perhaps a commercial BBC that could actually sell it stuff to people who want it would help a) the BBC b) people who want it? > Tories are always looking for an excuse to shutdown the BBC so their donors can pillage the public commons and eat the corpse. Or maybe it's because it's not the government's job to run TV channels and radio stations, nor is it the public's job to fund them?

> Or maybe it's because it's not the government's job to run TV channels and radio stations, nor is it the public's job to fund them? Public broadcasting is great, so many wonderful shows in the US would not have been able to have been made without it. But go ahead, sacrifice public media to the god of market economics. You might not miss it when it's gone, but it will be a sad day indeed.

Comparing PBS to the BBC doesn't make sense: PBS isn't publicly funded nor is it mandatory to donate to PBS.
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