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Ask HN: Do you have the courage to abandon your high paying job?

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Re: Ask HN: Do you have the courage to abandon your high paying job?

#61
I did it. Quit my high paying job(not anywhere as high as your though) got a good compensation package and spent 4-5 years starting a company together with my dad. The company still haven't succeeded but haven't shut down either.

Now I work as a freelance consultant and am starting with two new ideas. BUT this time I will do it differently.

I will most certainly keep working my "regular" job until I have traction with one of the other ideas. I have a high paying job, could of course cut all expenses(this is not fun a few years in btw!) and live of very little. But the other option with a high paying job is to invest all of the excess pay into whatever endeavor you are planning. You most likely have enough excess pay to hire one or two other people to work on your idea while still working your day job.

This even gives a little more meaning to your daytime job as it then finances your future startup.

Re: Ask HN: Do you have the courage to abandon your high paying job?

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Have you looked in to FIRE (financial independence; retire early) at all? At your income it doesn't seem like it would take all that long to get to a point where retirement is a possibility. Then you'd be free to pursue your low cost hobby business without fear of returning to the job market in a reduced capacity. It would come down to how important your lifestyle is to you and your spouse I guess, but if you conside…

I don't understand the idea that living off investments is "independence". It's just a different kind of dependence. You're depending on other people to do work while reaping the benefits. Sounds great, except when too many people do it.

Isn't anything bad by definition when "too many" people do it?

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I’ve been in this exact same situation. My best advise would be to start your business aside while maintaining your current job. Do not quit until you have some sort of version #1 of your product or whatever that is. You need data before making your desicion. I planned everything in my head but my steps were way too vague. I will build this kind of products or I’m even gonna try that business that has nothing to do w…

At many companies, including all FANG-like companies, you can't start a business on the side. Your employer may claim ownership and you can be fired for breaking your employment contract.

In California, that's not the case. As long as it's not a competitor or in a similar space the company should have no claim to your business or ideas generated while not using the companies resources.

Re: Ask HN: Do you have the courage to abandon your high paying job?

#64
There have been others saying don't quit your day job and to do it on the side. I agree. It may be more stressful and you might lose a bit of sleep but it is far preferable to racing against the emptying of your bank account. I've done it twice and each time I've failed. However each time I've gotten a tech job in about a month and a half's time after trying to get back to 9-5. But the stress and occasional bouts of depression are not worth it especially considering when you keep your day job you'll have more money to pump into your ideas. The golden handcuffs you're trying to escape from are actually what will enable you to be successful in that escape.

I heavily urge you to stay in your job and make sure that your company is profitable and has a very good chance at sustainable growth before you quit your day job.

Good luck either way.

Re: Ask HN: Do you have the courage to abandon your high paying job?

#65
What the hell ?

Yes do it ! You re gonna move in a less expensive place, just stop working, you can live at least 1year without working if you cut your expenses, it will give you all the time to figure out what to do with your life. And if you finish nowhere after 1year, just get an other of your boring stressfull, high paying job !

If you are too scared and don't want to "loose" 70-100k by not working, just find a part-time job, work like 2days per week as a freelance, it will be enought to sustain yourself with a low cost life style, and give you 3 more days of total freedom to work on your personnal project...

Damn, stop being scared. You can get a job again, if it doen't workout.

Re: Ask HN: Do you have the courage to abandon your high paying job?

#66
Just wondering has anyone found life coaching useful in circumstances like this? I live in one of the most expensive cities in the world have been quite career driven but I'm worried about hitting the ceiling where taking on more responsibility isn't worth the extra coin.

FIRE seems attractive and is very possible but based on the two three month periods where I haven't worked so far in my career - I'm worried about how depressed/lonely I would get?

Any ideas?

Re: Ask HN: Do you have the courage to abandon your high paying job?

#67
The ultimate first world problem, but still a real one.

Around the time my first kid was born, I took a look at the profits from my little handful of SaaS products and decided that, even though we were happily living off it, it wasn't really "put a kid through college" money. So I picked up a remote contract.

But, SaaS being Saas, business picked up. After a few years, the product business was bringing in more than any full-time job I'd ever had before. But I had negotiated my "Bay Area Rate" for this contract, and was therefore also bringing in a significant fraction of what the OP describes each year.

House paid off, savings saved, no money troubles on the horizon, but it still took a long time and a lot of effort to convince myself to drop that contract. When the getting is good, it's really hard to deliberately stop the getting.

But I did. Took the kids out of school for half a year and hopped a flight to Southeast Asia to show them how mommy and daddy used to travel with backpacks and sleep in tin huts on the beach. Then slowly settled back in to working on the business stuff, when the weather didn't favor being outside, implementing all those things I'd had to put off for 5 years and shaping them up to be the solid revenue stream they'll need to be going forward.

But yeah, it's tough to do. Well worth it though.

To the OP, though, I'd recommend getting your spending sorted out. The math above doesn't work out for me, and it sounds like you've ramped your lifestyle up to consume most of that half million a year. Don't pull the plug until you have that comfortably down to around $50k all in. Otherwise you'll burn through your $1M savings in, well, 2 years. That would be no fun. And completely unnecessary.

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Don't... Most jobs suck. There's no way around it. Most jobs have aspects that you just don't want to do. That's why you get paid rather than you pay. You need to figure out how to make your current job fit your needs, financial and psychological. One thing you can do is to decide how much it takes for you to retire in a more affordable part of the country and work until you reach it at the fastest rate. Starting a s…

"Have aspects you dont like" and "can't really stand my job" are two fundamentally different statements. It is not the same. Majority if tech jobs are not "high stress" either. They are "somewhat stress" at max.

Also, nowhere near 500K.

Re: Ask HN: Do you have the courage to abandon your high paying job?

#69

$500k per year?! You would be insane to walk away from that. Keep it up for a decade, save as much as you can, and retire in your 50s.

$500k a year Cali translate to $100k a year where I live. Cost of living in Cali is crazy expensive.

Also, you're in a tax bracket where you're basically a golden egg-laying goose for the government.

Re: Ask HN: Do you have the courage to abandon your high paying job?

#70

Since a game typically doesn't have a first mover advantage nor suffer from a "time is of the essence" problem, and given your opportunity cost of income, you should consider outsourcing the development of your game to a cheaper labor market. With your technical know how, you can supervise your team to your liking, launch the game, and see how it goes. While you still might be unhappy at work, this will preserve more…

Not sure why you are getting downvoted, as this is the best solution that I have seen so far. Even in the Bay Area, 500k salary is an outlier, and the op can easily afford to hire a part time local developer or full time in a lower cost of living area.

Another similar option would be to look for a co-founder, and 'self-finance' the company initially. I am sure there are some folks out there who would happily take a lower % of equity in exchange for a small salary. And the added advantage is you essentially have unlimited runway.

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