Does anyone know how well JSON Feed [0] is doing? [0] https://jsonfeed.org/
IMHO, the "problem" with RSS has never been the data format—it's the distribution model (which many of us actually prefer).
RSS is undead
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#182Earlier quoted context omitted.
> but maybe it's even harder to have an analytics system and use it responsibly? I'd say it absolutely is harder--on the one hand, you have an opportunity for more money. On the other hand, you have the mass of users that have proven that they don't care enough to react against irresponsible use in any meaningful way. Simple decision in a business context.
> react against irresponsible use in any meaningful way. Not all reaction is direct. It's a bit like other polluting industries; you can keep doing it right up to the point where public opinion turns on the industry as a whole , and onerous regulations get imposed. I think GDPR is a taste of this.
I think that under-simplifies the dynamic: public opinion is changed slowly and painfully through consistent advocacy efforts that publicize abuses, while the abusing industries fight back and regain ground at least some of the time.
But yeah, more GDPR-like moves would be fantastic.
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#183Here are some things that would be useful for me, but that I don't currently know how to access easily. * A feed for all updates to a news story for a given news source * A feed for all updates and developments for a news story across all news sources. * A feed for all updates for a given area for a given news source. More specific than 'news category', more general than one specific thread of events. * Feed for all…
For 2) you might want to look at GDELT. It is a big feed, so you might not want it on your phone, but a 5$ VM should do the job. It lacks 1), from what I remember, but that's about it.
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#185I loved using Fever back in the day for RSS! It was self-hosted and bubbled up stories of the same article from different sources. https://feedafever.com
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#186It's been a while but ISTR Atom is extendable unlike RSS
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#187The reason RSS is still here, is that things like feedly, inoreader, and others that filled the google reader gap continue to have millions of loyal users and just about every blog and news publisher still publishes rss feeds because it is easy to do and you lose potential clicks if you don't. Google killed Google reader to make buzz work (failed) and the several other thingies they have been pushing since (also fail…
Google Buzz died first in December 2011. Google Reader died in July 2013.
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#188RSS never (un)died for me. I run FreshRSS[1]. It works well on shared hosting and it runs on SQLite (no migration troubles!). The best thing about it is escaping the algorithmically curated feeds. Every and service that I use has an RSS feed, except for Twitter. I use https://twitrss.me/ to follow users. If you don't find a feed, sometimes you just have to dig a little. You learn at which URIs the most commons CMSes…
> The best thing about it is escaping the algorithmically curated feeds. Honestly, I don't think algorithmically curated feeds are a problem. The main problem is the goal of the given algorithm which is often trying to maximize someone else's profit rather than minimize your time reading the feed... That being said, I am always amazed at the ability of my brain to go through my feed and filter the interesting out qui…
> The main problem is the goal of the given algorithm which is often trying to maximize someone else's profit rather than minimize your time reading the feed...
True that. Sadly, that is the business model for the larger part of the internet. My use of RSS is partly a way of trying to escape that.
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#189I never stopped using RSS but Firefox has made it a bit more difficult to find out if a site offers RSS...
I personally still have the "Subscribe" icon (Firefox 59). I had to move it from "Customize" to my toolbar but it is definitely there.
Thanks for the tip, I just added it back.
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#190Earlier quoted context omitted.
Surely Google Reader had numbers that influenced the decision to shut it down?
Or just as likely the inability to monetize those users. Was there any indication that RSS viewership was dropping? I've been using RSS uninterrupted, every day, since the early 2000s. First on Google Reader and then, and now, using Tiny Tiny RSS. I always find these articles about RSS being dead to be pretty funny, considering I'm usually reading them via RSS.
Is there an active site for that?
https://tt-rss.org/ seems to be gone/down.