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YouTube Kids Is Going to Release a Whitelisted, Non-Algorithmic Version of App

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The safest way to use YouTube with kids is to download videos offline using youtube-dl or one of its front ends and use an app like VLC to play them. Kids shouldn't be accessing YouTube directly. It really is bad. A simple example: looking for videos for a school women's history day thingamajig, YouTube kept recommending outright twisted videos which were sort of women's history but algorithmically generated and just…

Children bellow 10 should not have access to internet without supervision IMO.

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#102

I don’t understand why YT a kids isn’t a completely parent controlled thing. I’d like to be able to simply choose the channels that my kids can watch any time, and let’s leave it at that. Why does this not exist?

You can.

You just have to do it "the old fashioned way", aka, spending the time with your kids.

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#103

I don’t understand why YT a kids isn’t a completely parent controlled thing. I’d like to be able to simply choose the channels that my kids can watch any time, and let’s leave it at that. Why does this not exist?

You can. You just have to do it "the old fashioned way", aka, spending the time with your kids.

That just turns into helicopter parenting, which causes a lot of problems. You can do both; Spend time with your kids, and let them do their own thing within set constraints.

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#104

I don’t understand why YT a kids isn’t a completely parent controlled thing. I’d like to be able to simply choose the channels that my kids can watch any time, and let’s leave it at that. Why does this not exist?

You can. You just have to do it "the old fashioned way", aka, spending the time with your kids.

I spend tons of time with my kids. If I need to prepare food or feed my picky daughter, YouTube can be helpful. This kind of shaming doesn’t help and I don’t buy that you can watch your kids 24/7.

Besides, have you ever had a bad day and wanted to finish dinner while your child decided to be a bit bratty? It’s not the best choice to put kids in front of screens and I do it very minimally, but this shaming tactic isn’t helpful

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#105
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This will be awesome, same for Netflix. Another problem to fix is limiting watching to certain times and durations. I wonder if there are third party apps that aggregate across YT and Netflix and has these features in a legal manner.

For the time limits you could take a look at Circle, which allows you reasonable control (at an individual level) of when and how long your children are using Netflix etc. And offers some control of what (by classified type) or domain whitelist/blacklist. Don’t think I can block specific urls so can’t achieve whitelist only YouTube.

I've been looking for a router with good monitoring and control for years, this looks very impressive, thanks!

https://meetcircle.com/

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#106

One step closer to the only thing I ever wanted, an app that lets me whitelist the channels. Without having to create an account too. The list will be small enough to store locally and pass with every list request. I never want to see another video about colors wrapped in bible verses for the rest of my life.

Same, I'm interested in Programming, Chess, History and Engineering. YouTube recommends "Secret Alien Spaceship you didn't know about" or some equally inane bullshit. It's so bad I used ublock origin to just filter out that entire vertical section. The recommendations are simply useless to an end user.

I watch youtube a LOT and have 3 or 4 different primary interests, and I regularly spend a fair amount of time looking for new channels, etc typically with no success. And then occasionally, I will sometimes come across a perfectly relevant channel with 1 million+ subscribers, that the youtube algorithm has never suggested to me as a channel, or even any of the individual videos. It is so inept that it seems impossible to be accidental - obviously that makes no sense at all, but then knowingly allowing twisted videos to continue existing in children's channels makes no sense either, yet here we are.

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#107
post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can. You just have to do it "the old fashioned way", aka, spending the time with your kids.

I spend tons of time with my kids. If I need to prepare food or feed my picky daughter, YouTube can be helpful. This kind of shaming doesn’t help and I don’t buy that you can watch your kids 24/7. Besides, have you ever had a bad day and wanted to finish dinner while your child decided to be a bit bratty? It’s not the best choice to put kids in front of screens and I do it very minimally, but this shaming tactic isn’…

I've yet to meet a single person* with kids who actually, unironically, says things like "your just have to spend time with your kids, duh"

* The few I have met who say these things have full-time live-in nannies so they're not exactly models of "spending time with their kids" either...

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#109

Parent and long-time ex-googler. I'm baffled that the original YT Kids was not whitelisted, and in fact I uninstalled it from my little one's ipads a long time ago. They were watching a Trolls (Dreamworks) animation, and I thought "boy, the writing on this isn't very good, but whatever". Then the plot started to become kinda bizarre and I realized it was a fake. As a user, I felt duped by YT Kids, who had promised me…

It seems strange to (implicitly?) blame "a few PMs" for building things the wait Google management and culture demands, instead of pulling a mutiny on their employers.

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#110

I don’t understand why YT a kids isn’t a completely parent controlled thing. I’d like to be able to simply choose the channels that my kids can watch any time, and let’s leave it at that. Why does this not exist?

Because in the modern walled garden, all decisions must be made by the benevolent corporation for benefit of the consumer. We're paid to think so you don't have to!
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