In fighting homeless camp, Irvine's Asians win, but at a cost
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Re: In fighting homeless camp, Irvine's Asians win, but at a cost
#2This is very similar the stories one hears regarding NIMBYism in the Silicon Valley. Hard working, successful immigrants seem to subscribe the just world hypothesis, exactly as one might predict. Their tolerance for those who aren’t able to do the same is pretty low from what I’ve seen. If they can come here poor and in a generation become millionaires and buy a home in California of all places, then why can’t everyone else.
Re: In fighting homeless camp, Irvine's Asians win, but at a cost
#3> a dentist with offices in Irvine and Orange, said he paid about $5,000 to sponsor seven buses…
I understand this dentist wanted to protect his neighborhood in his mind, but it's really sad if he's not donating any money to actually help the homeless.
Re: In fighting homeless camp, Irvine's Asians win, but at a cost
#4This is very similar the stories one hears regarding NIMBYism in the Silicon Valley. Hard working, successful immigrants seem to subscribe the just world hypothesis, exactly as one might predict. Their tolerance for those who aren’t able to do the same is pretty low from what I’ve seen. If they can come here poor and in a generation become millionaires and buy a home in California of all places, then why can’t everyo…
Another angle I've seen, in Austin, is that people who are close to falling off that cliff are among the least tolerant of those who have. Those who are scraping by with service jobs are often least tolerant of the mentally-ill homeless person who hassles them on the way to work, and quickest to call the police. If you are a first-generation immigrant, I think it often means you do not take it as a given that you cannot fall out of the successful class, even if you are doing well now. Someone born into the professional class may feel better about themselves for tolerating uncomfortable behavior from someone less fortunate, whereas someone who in the back of their mind is worried about "that could be me someday" is not feeling good about themselves for being tolerant.
Just my own anecdotal view, I have no data to back that up on a large scale.
Re: In fighting homeless camp, Irvine's Asians win, but at a cost
#5Is there any data on what is driving this?
How much of this is due to the cost to rent?
Is California a homeless destination due to climate and general tolerance to homeless camps...etc?
Re: In fighting homeless camp, Irvine's Asians win, but at a cost
#6This is very similar the stories one hears regarding NIMBYism in the Silicon Valley. Hard working, successful immigrants seem to subscribe the just world hypothesis, exactly as one might predict. Their tolerance for those who aren’t able to do the same is pretty low from what I’ve seen. If they can come here poor and in a generation become millionaires and buy a home in California of all places, then why can’t everyo…
Another angle I've seen, in Austin, is that people who are close to falling off that cliff are among the least tolerant of those who have. Those who are scraping by with service jobs are often least tolerant of the mentally-ill homeless person who hassles them on the way to work, and quickest to call the police. If you are a first-generation immigrant, I think it often means you do not take it as a given that you can…
No data but I have similar anecdotes, and also have to point out that in the past 50 years or so a lot of the strongest political opposition to increased social programs has come from the working class. Most of the wealthy I've spoken to are less opposed to social spending.
In addition to the reasons cited another factor might be diminishing marginal utility of money. A 1% tax hike on a millionaire will have zero tangible perceived effect on his or her lifestyle. A similar tax increase on a working class person could be devastating.
Re: In fighting homeless camp, Irvine's Asians win, but at a cost
#7This is very similar the stories one hears regarding NIMBYism in the Silicon Valley. Hard working, successful immigrants seem to subscribe the just world hypothesis, exactly as one might predict. Their tolerance for those who aren’t able to do the same is pretty low from what I’ve seen. If they can come here poor and in a generation become millionaires and buy a home in California of all places, then why can’t everyo…
Another angle I've seen, in Austin, is that people who are close to falling off that cliff are among the least tolerant of those who have. Those who are scraping by with service jobs are often least tolerant of the mentally-ill homeless person who hassles them on the way to work, and quickest to call the police. If you are a first-generation immigrant, I think it often means you do not take it as a given that you can…
> Irvine boasts a median home value of $740,000.
I don't see these people as 'nearly falling off'.
I see these as people who don't want to have the value of their homes fall even one cent because 'we got here on our own hard work'.
Re: In fighting homeless camp, Irvine's Asians win, but at a cost
#8Is there any data on what is driving this? How much of this is due to the cost to rent? Is California a homeless destination due to climate and general tolerance to homeless camps...etc?
California and Florida are indeed major homeless destinations due to climate, and California more so due to tolerance.
Re: In fighting homeless camp, Irvine's Asians win, but at a cost
#9This is very similar the stories one hears regarding NIMBYism in the Silicon Valley. Hard working, successful immigrants seem to subscribe the just world hypothesis, exactly as one might predict. Their tolerance for those who aren’t able to do the same is pretty low from what I’ve seen. If they can come here poor and in a generation become millionaires and buy a home in California of all places, then why can’t everyo…
>If they can come here poor and in a generation become millionaires and buy a home in California of all places, then why can’t everyone else.
If they can do it here, why couldn't they do it back home?
Re: In fighting homeless camp, Irvine's Asians win, but at a cost
#10This is very similar the stories one hears regarding NIMBYism in the Silicon Valley. Hard working, successful immigrants seem to subscribe the just world hypothesis, exactly as one might predict. Their tolerance for those who aren’t able to do the same is pretty low from what I’ve seen. If they can come here poor and in a generation become millionaires and buy a home in California of all places, then why can’t everyo…
>If they can come here poor and in a generation become millionaires and buy a home in California of all places, then why can’t everyone else. If they can do it here, why couldn't they do it back home?
Political corruption, totalitarianism.