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Middle-Class Families Increasingly Look to Community Colleges

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Re: Middle-Class Families Increasingly Look to Community Colleges

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Good. If nothing else, maybe it’ll help instill values of financial responsibility (I watched a report on crippling student debt where a woman went $150k in debt to get a theatre arts degree from NYU and now works as a waitress). There are actually lots of options to get a good education without breaking the bank. Transfer from community college is just one. Another is becoming a state resident for good state schools…

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Good. If nothing else, maybe it’ll help instill values of financial responsibility (I watched a report on crippling student debt where a woman went $150k in debt to get a theatre arts degree from NYU and now works as a waitress). There are actually lots of options to get a good education without breaking the bank. Transfer from community college is just one. Another is becoming a state resident for good state schools…

Sorry, FAAMG SWEs?

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Good. If nothing else, maybe it’ll help instill values of financial responsibility (I watched a report on crippling student debt where a woman went $150k in debt to get a theatre arts degree from NYU and now works as a waitress). There are actually lots of options to get a good education without breaking the bank. Transfer from community college is just one. Another is becoming a state resident for good state schools…

Sorry, FAAMG SWEs?

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Re: Middle-Class Families Increasingly Look to Community Colleges

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I went to a community college and transferred to a prestigious public university.

In my experience, if you find a good community college, the high volume classes tend to be better than they are at a big school. There are usually less than 50 students (vs up to 400), the teachers actually enjoy teaching, and the material is easy enough that the teachers understand it just as well as top tier professors.

Honestly, California is the only state where I'd unabashedly recommend this path though. The community colleges are consistently good, you have multiple choices in terms of top tier public universities, and transfer students are given priority.

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Good. If nothing else, maybe it’ll help instill values of financial responsibility (I watched a report on crippling student debt where a woman went $150k in debt to get a theatre arts degree from NYU and now works as a waitress). There are actually lots of options to get a good education without breaking the bank. Transfer from community college is just one. Another is becoming a state resident for good state schools…

Honestly, I can't understand how people can sympathize with college students going into crippling debt any more than a proverbial Chinese teen who sold his kidney to purchase an iPhone (this news story from a couple of years ago probably was fake anyway). Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Honestly, fuck you. If you can’t understand why impressionable 16/17-year-olds, who have been told their entire lives that they have to go to college or else they’ll just wind up flipping burgers, might make a financial mistake like this, then you clearly have your head planted firmly up your ass.

Re: Middle-Class Families Increasingly Look to Community Colleges

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I went to a community college and transferred to a prestigious public university. In my experience, if you find a good community college, the high volume classes tend to be better than they are at a big school. There are usually less than 50 students (vs up to 400), the teachers actually enjoy teaching, and the material is easy enough that the teachers understand it just as well as top tier professors. Honestly, Cali…

> Honestly, California is the only state where I'd unabashedly recommend this path though. The community colleges are consistently good, you have multiple choices in terms of top tier public universities, and transfer students are given priority.

The are curriculum-design rules at the 4-year state schools in CA to smooth the transition too, which I think is fairly unusual. When I was working at UC Santa Cruz, my department proposed a new degree program, and an important part of the overall proposal was to show that there would be ways to fulfil the first two years of credit requirements (plus the prereqs for years 3/4) via courses commonly offered at in-state community colleges, so you could transfer in and still graduate on time. This does complicate design of certain kinds of curricula (it tends to discourage course sequences that strongly build on each other), but gives students more options.

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Good. If nothing else, maybe it’ll help instill values of financial responsibility (I watched a report on crippling student debt where a woman went $150k in debt to get a theatre arts degree from NYU and now works as a waitress). There are actually lots of options to get a good education without breaking the bank. Transfer from community college is just one. Another is becoming a state resident for good state schools…

Honestly, I can't understand how people can sympathize with college students going into crippling debt any more than a proverbial Chinese teen who sold his kidney to purchase an iPhone (this news story from a couple of years ago probably was fake anyway). Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Try empathizing instead of merely sympathizing.
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