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Please show me where in every day those five colours show up together.

Unlike the other posters, I'm not going to pretend I don't know what you're talking about. That being said, what's the point of those "MKUltra patterns"? Are they supposed to trigger some special reaction on children?

> Unlike the other posters, I'm not going to pretend I don't know what you're talking about.

And now something for those of us genuinely out of the loop?

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So it’s Netflix but with ads and worse content?

We deleted YT on our devices the kids use. Google policy and practice changes so frequently, I don’t trust them as a long term solution. And like I said the content is low quality for the most part anyway.

Netflix has plenty of quality kids content for us.

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Please show me where in every day those five colours show up together.

Unlike the other posters, I'm not going to pretend I don't know what you're talking about. That being said, what's the point of those "MKUltra patterns"? Are they supposed to trigger some special reaction on children?

Thanks. FWIW - I actually don't know if its related to elsagate I was hoping to get more information in this thread (though this seems to be going nowhere).

MkUltra as far as I understand is about conditioning emotional responses to specific events or triggers. In the case of elsagate the objective seems to be to condition children to think traumatic events are normal and part of every day life. Such as being tied up, being given a needle, being defected or urinated on, locked in a closet surrounded by bugs, etc.

Its an unpleasant topic to research but there is a lot of information out there that has been declassified. Based on what I have seen I would say yes there is a relationship between the two. It could be that the MKUltra techniques are being used to captivate their audience in order to make more money on monetized videos. Not necessarily anything more sinister, though that alone is pretty terrible if true. Those videos are sick.

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I think that's over thinking it a bit, youtube algos are easy to manipulate and a single thread on 4chan can create a fair bit of weird media, for the explicit intent of creating weird media.

Excuse me, but AFAIK it was 4chan who started calling out these videos in the first place.

Both can be true at the same time. 4chan is basically about pointing and laughing at things on the internet, right? So it doesn't matter much whether they're gaming YT's algorithm to show disturbing things to kids, or pointing to other people doing it.

(Also, I find it weird to give a kindergartener unsupervised access to any internet device. They don't understand the threats they're confronting.)

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Hmm, my nephew already saw pepa pig having her teeth extracted on YouTube kids so I'm gonna say this is too little too late.

The good thing for YouTube is that more kids are being born every day. They can sacrifice all existing kids and still have more new users going forward.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unlike the other posters, I'm not going to pretend I don't know what you're talking about. That being said, what's the point of those "MKUltra patterns"? Are they supposed to trigger some special reaction on children?

> Unlike the other posters, I'm not going to pretend I don't know what you're talking about. And now something for those of us genuinely out of the loop?

TL;DR - Thousands of extremely unpleasant videos have been published to Youtube for Kids where they have got billions of views. In many cases the videos have expensive production methods such as stop motion. Youtube has been aware of the videos since 2015. Here is an informative video on the topic.

Just a heads up, there are disturbing content and themes here. This topic is not for the feint of heart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32X45J-MRUE

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unlike the other posters, I'm not going to pretend I don't know what you're talking about. That being said, what's the point of those "MKUltra patterns"? Are they supposed to trigger some special reaction on children?

Thanks. FWIW - I actually don't know if its related to elsagate I was hoping to get more information in this thread (though this seems to be going nowhere). MkUltra as far as I understand is about conditioning emotional responses to specific events or triggers. In the case of elsagate the objective seems to be to condition children to think traumatic events are normal and part of every day life. Such as being tied up…

I see. That is very interesting, thank you. I also believe there's something really wrong with our society, and unpleasant and ill things are being normalised little by little by the media (youtube is the media too!), etc. It's frightening to think too that people will get fed up and the pushback will really be ugly.

Re: YouTube Kids Is Going to Release a Whitelisted, Non-Algorithmic Version of App

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My son loves YouTube kids (my daughter not so much) but luckily we haven’t come up against Elsagate yet. He’s simply too dorky with his video choices. He has learned all about astronomy through YTK and most recently he has learned all the American presidents from YTK videos.

I am surprised that there’s no whitelisting though. Looks like we’re going all the way back to the original Yahoo days with their curated list of acceptable web site lists.

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