Another Tesla on autopilot steers towards a barrier

Post by TarpitCarnivore » Fri, Apr 06, 2018, 8:04 PM UTC

jacquesm wrote: post #167

rayiner wrote: post #144

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When I think of self-driving car technology, I think of all of these inputs (maps, cameras, GPS, etc.) being fed into a world model from which inferences are drawn.[1] Here, the car could have known from cameras and maps that there was a lane split, and should have been able to detect that the line following was giving a conflicting inference compared to those other sources. The question is: does Tesla actually do th…

The whole problem seems to me that to get a 90% solution for a self driving vehicle is now no longer hard. The remaining 10% is super hard and the degree to which the present day solutions tend to get these wrong is worrisome enough that if the quality doesn't jump up very quickly the whole self driving car thing could end up in an AI winter all of its own making. And that would be a real loss. This is not a field wh…

Post by jijojv » Fri, Apr 06, 2018, 8:08 PM UTC

ucaetano wrote: post #300

hw wrote: post #297

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I think more people need to embrace and understand the fact that we are a long way from having fully autonomous vehicles that you can just give the steering reins to from start to finish. The term 'Autopilot' gives off the wrong idea that the driver can sit back and relax while the car brings you from point A to point B safely. The same is happening with chatbots - more and more businesses think they can put a chatbo…

> I think more people need to embrace and understand the fact that we are a long way from having fully autonomous vehicles that you can just give the steering reins to from start to finish Apparently, we're not, as Waymo has shown. > The term 'Autopilot' gives off the wrong idea that the driver can sit back and relax while the car brings you from point A to point B safely. Agreed, the "but that's not how autopilots w…

Post by jerrycruncher » Fri, Apr 06, 2018, 8:14 PM UTC

donkeyd wrote: post #153

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They shouldn't market it as "autopilot"

Volvo does it too, but nobody seems to be complaining about Volvo.

Post by jboles » Fri, Apr 06, 2018, 8:16 PM UTC

michaelt wrote: post #82

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So human drivers are terrible at driving for any long period of time, especially on relatively consistent "boring" highways. Guess what computers excel at? Driving consistently on consistent highways. The Tesla Autopilot is supposed to be the always aware and paying attention portion on these cases where a human driver would be very likely to start texting or dozing off. Now, it's not fully autonomous and may well de…

Guess what computers excel at? Driving consistently on consistent highways. Watching the video, would you say the computer was excelling, or that the road was radically unusual? I wouldn't.

Post by _0w8t » Fri, Apr 06, 2018, 8:17 PM UTC

lisper wrote: post #122

Here is my armchair diagnosis: right before the car veers towards the barrier it drives through a stretch of road where the only visible lane marker is on the left. Then the right lane marker comes into view at about the point where the lane starts to widen out for the lane split. The lines that will become the right and left lane markers of the split left and right lanes respectively are right next to the van in fro…