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Facebook will add “unsend” feature after secretly deleting Zuckerberg’s messages

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Re: Facebook will add “unsend” feature after secretly deleting Zuckerberg’s messages

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This story feels like exaggerated due to weak link between Zuckerberg's messages and the new feature.

They also add that Secret Chats in Messenger, Whatsapp and Instagram already support removing an already sent message. Facebook decided to also offer this feature for regular Messenger chats.

I guess any headline carrying Facebook, Zuckerberg and privacy concerns can make it to top these days. Modern online journalism is a whole another subject.

Re: Facebook will add “unsend” feature after secretly deleting Zuckerberg’s messages

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Maybe Zuck can prevent some future scandals with this new feature. Unfortunately we all know they aren't actually deleting the messages, just hiding it. You can probably still buy the data.

{ message: `They "trust me", dumb fucks`, isDeleted: true }

In the UI: "Your message was successfully deleted!"

Re: Facebook will add “unsend” feature after secretly deleting Zuckerberg’s messages

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What permission does the user give FB in terms of how FB can use the messages?

The message might "disappear" after a few seconds, but at that point FB may have already extracted the information they want from it, information they will use to further their business.

Assuming users want some sort of privacy, from whom is it that they want their messages to remain "private"?

Will there ever be options in FB "privacy settings" such as:

[ ] Do not share with Facebook

[ ] Do not share with advertisers, political campaigns, etc.

Absurdity aside, the mere feasibilty of this is itself debatable.

Do users want their messages to remain private from companies like Facebook?

How about from FB's clients, e.g., advertisers, political campaigns, hospitals, etc.?

How about from the rest of the general public?

We now know as confirmed by FB that this user data has been shared for years. Perhaps FB can argue this was "informed consent".

However users can change their minds in light of more information. They should be able to revoke that consent going forward.

Will all that "leaked" user data FB has intentionally shared self-destruct after some period of time? Unfortunately, no.

It seems to me that, in the main, the parties that have the greatest incentive to monitor users messaging are in fact companies like FB and their clients.

They have a financial incentive that is in the aggregate far greater than any individual (petty criminal, etc.). Collecting user data has become their business. "It is literally just what we do." Period.

Finally, thanks to the explosive growth of single websites into vast monopolies like Facebook that extend their reach into nearly every corner of the internet, they, the companies behind these websites, are in the best position to do it.

It should be self-evident but maybe needs to be restated: These companies cannot protect the user from the company itself. The amount of trust required of the user depending on these websites is simply mind-blowing (from the perspective of someone who has lived in times when no such trust was necessary).

Thats only an opinion. I respect any disagreement and welcome karma subtraction as a means to express it.

Re: Facebook will add “unsend” feature after secretly deleting Zuckerberg’s messages

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Maybe Zuck can prevent some future scandals with this new feature. Unfortunately we all know they aren't actually deleting the messages, just hiding it. You can probably still buy the data. { message: `They "trust me", dumb fucks`, isDeleted: true } In the UI: "Your message was successfully deleted!"

Does your message data actually get sold to third parties?

Re: Facebook will add “unsend” feature after secretly deleting Zuckerberg’s messages

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Ha, this just confirms what I thought to myself but decided not to comment on, reading some other recent Facebook-disaster post here.

Mark has a different Facebook. I bet he doesn't see ads, unless he wants to. And, come to think of it, when he or other blessed entities delete something, it's really gone. Come to think of it, I wonder whether their data gets scooped up by the various monitoring and collection tools that are doubtless built in to the product and its administrative interface.

Are they really dogfooding their own product, at this point?

Re: Facebook will add “unsend” feature after secretly deleting Zuckerberg’s messages

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post #5

Maybe Zuck can prevent some future scandals with this new feature. Unfortunately we all know they aren't actually deleting the messages, just hiding it. You can probably still buy the data. { message: `They "trust me", dumb fucks`, isDeleted: true } In the UI: "Your message was successfully deleted!"

Does your message data actually get sold to third parties?

Probably not the message data itself, as you would still have to parse it to gain insights. But the insights mined from it, definitely.

Re: Facebook will add “unsend” feature after secretly deleting Zuckerberg’s messages

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post #5

Maybe Zuck can prevent some future scandals with this new feature. Unfortunately we all know they aren't actually deleting the messages, just hiding it. You can probably still buy the data. { message: `They "trust me", dumb fucks`, isDeleted: true } In the UI: "Your message was successfully deleted!"

Does your message data actually get sold to third parties?

There was a class action lawsuit in 2014 in regards to Facebook selling private chat data. I am not sure what came of it.

But it wouldn't surprise me in the least.

Re: Facebook will add “unsend” feature after secretly deleting Zuckerberg’s messages

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Maybe Zuck can prevent some future scandals with this new feature. Unfortunately we all know they aren't actually deleting the messages, just hiding it. You can probably still buy the data. { message: `They "trust me", dumb fucks`, isDeleted: true } In the UI: "Your message was successfully deleted!"

>isDeleted: true

This is entirely why I dont delete anything now.

I feel like there are some blackmail companies that are web crawling looking for deleted comments and posts.

Or if they dont exist today, they will in a few decades.

Re: Facebook will add “unsend” feature after secretly deleting Zuckerberg’s messages

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Maybe Zuck can prevent some future scandals with this new feature. Unfortunately we all know they aren't actually deleting the messages, just hiding it. You can probably still buy the data. { message: `They "trust me", dumb fucks`, isDeleted: true } In the UI: "Your message was successfully deleted!"

> Unfortunately we all know they aren't actually deleting the messages, just hiding it.

Well, more like if user=zuckerberg, delete, else, hide.

They wouldn't want those "deleted" messages from Zuckerberg to show up in discovery...

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