Can we just put a pause on all the Facebook stories for a while? Lots of fluff pieces with no real content making it to the homepage from outlets that are banking off the current outrage.
Facebook was in talks with hospitals about a proposal to share data
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Facebook has been screwing with people's privacy for years, so it's only fair that they are now criticised for years on end. This has got to be a new Facebook apology meme: the pile-on. Until Facebook and privacy is regulated in the US, like GDPR does it for the EU, the pile-on should continue. Must continue, no matter how uncomfortable it is for the pro-Facebook, pro-ads or pro-spyware people.
For me, the result of having HN filled with these Facebook non-stories is that I'm going to stop taking an interest in them. As far as I can tell the situation with Facebook is substantially the same as it's been since it started. Users willfully broadcast information using Facebook, and sometimes Facebook uses that information in ways its users didn't intend or expect. Among the recent slew of dramatic stories I hav…
Yes, it is boring, yes it is repetitive. And it will continue to be that way until facebook gains a shred of decency. But I guess that we should just forgive and ignore because there are too may of them?
Maybe you are not the target of these stories, the public at large do feel that they are surprising and shocking.
Re: Facebook was in talks with hospitals about a proposal to share data
#74The pile on continues... (1) This is probably a project by a small "research" group at Facebook. The goal of that group is probably to publish papers in a Psych journal or something like that about how they were able to correlate anonymized medical data with Facebook feed updates. Tech companies have these research groups for prestige, they are not central to the company mission. (2) According to the article, the pro…
(1) Or it could have been just another way to add a little more data to your profile. And even if you are right, I don't think you are but if you were, do you really want a company to do psychological experiments with you without your knowledge? (2) Yeah, but it wasn't started because of the pile on. You can't give Facebook credit for not starting this.
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I dislike/disagree with facebook more than most folks, but even I can smell a dead horse being beaten.
For years privacy-minded people have complained about the lack of recognition of privacy issues among the masses. Suddenly, story after story about aspects of Facebook's anti-privacy practices are being read by the public. This will lead to more stories about other data mining entities as well. The more this keeps up, the more concrete privacy issues will be in the minds of many. And yet, HN is full of dismissals. I'…
Re: Facebook was in talks with hospitals about a proposal to share data
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
Facebook has been screwing with people's privacy for years, so it's only fair that they are now criticised for years on end. This has got to be a new Facebook apology meme: the pile-on. Until Facebook and privacy is regulated in the US, like GDPR does it for the EU, the pile-on should continue. Must continue, no matter how uncomfortable it is for the pro-Facebook, pro-ads or pro-spyware people.
They're hardly alone, just the most visible. Let's remember that many of our fellow hackers are likely Facebook engineers doing regular work, and are probably feeling pretty bad right now, even though the decisions behind what's going on is way above their pay grade. Yes there's some responsibility due them as well, but perhaps we can remain civil to our silent peers?
Didn't we establish that "just following orders" doesn't cut it decades ago?
Re: Facebook was in talks with hospitals about a proposal to share data
#77Re: Facebook was in talks with hospitals about a proposal to share data
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
They're hardly alone, just the most visible. Let's remember that many of our fellow hackers are likely Facebook engineers doing regular work, and are probably feeling pretty bad right now, even though the decisions behind what's going on is way above their pay grade. Yes there's some responsibility due them as well, but perhaps we can remain civil to our silent peers?
>Let's remember that many of our fellow hackers are likely Facebook engineers doing regular work, and are probably feeling pretty bad right now, even though the decisions behind what's going on is way above their pay grade. Didn't we establish that "just following orders" doesn't cut it decades ago?
Re: Facebook was in talks with hospitals about a proposal to share data
#79The pile on continues... (1) This is probably a project by a small "research" group at Facebook. The goal of that group is probably to publish papers in a Psych journal or something like that about how they were able to correlate anonymized medical data with Facebook feed updates. Tech companies have these research groups for prestige, they are not central to the company mission. (2) According to the article, the pro…
On the other hand, it's hard not to get conspiratorial, given https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/12/facebook-rupert-murdoch-thre...
Re: Facebook was in talks with hospitals about a proposal to share data
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Let's remember that many of our fellow hackers are likely Facebook engineers doing regular work, and are probably feeling pretty bad right now, even though the decisions behind what's going on is way above their pay grade. Didn't we establish that "just following orders" doesn't cut it decades ago?
The second paragraph that you didn't quote covered that