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Re: Show HN: I made a Chrome extension to reveal zero-width characters

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Post by gkya » Thu, Apr 05, 2018, 11:27 AM UTC

B1FF_PSUVM wrote: post #88

Volt wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cynical and disingenuous.

Bitterly invidious Lisp nerd? (They give off rays or something ... took a cursory look to see if I was being unfair, and booom - https://www.gkayaalp.com/blog/20170206_emacs-argument.html )

Yeah that's me :) At least the second part, because with Emacs I don't really need to be invidious.

TBH I do actually like Unix and Plan9, but having read a big part of cat-v website in the past, most of the views there are fanatical, and are more bitter, cynical and disingenuous than I can ever force myself to be. Especially the way incredibly useful and important OSS projects are denigrated and misrepresented is really annoying (see the harmful stuff section, for example).

Re: Show HN: I made a Chrome extension to reveal zero-width characters

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Post by gkya » Thu, Apr 05, 2018, 1:40 PM UTC

na85 wrote: post #83

gkya wrote: post #66

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xxd is part of vim IIRC.

Nope. https://linux.die.net/man/1/xxd

Yep:

  $ apt-cache show xxd | grep Source:
  Source: vim (2:8.0.1453-1)
  Source: vim

Re: Show HN: I made a Chrome extension to reveal zero-width characters

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Post by na85 » Thu, Apr 05, 2018, 3:23 PM UTC

gkya wrote: post #92

na85 wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope. https://linux.die.net/man/1/xxd

Yep: $ apt-cache show xxd | grep Source: Source: vim (2:8.0.1453-1) Source: vim

Oh I must've misunderstood what you meant by "part of" vim.

Re: Show HN: I made a Chrome extension to reveal zero-width characters

#94

Post by username223 » Thu, Apr 05, 2018, 4:10 PM UTC

yuchi wrote: post #72

username223 wrote: post #43

Does anyone remember how many years of pain were caused by different line endings -- "\n" vs. "\r" vs. "\r\n"? Unicode is 10x that, and the pain is just beginning.

Did you mean ^10?

Probably, since it's an omnishambles on a scale I won't pretend to understand. Eight-fingered and two-thumbed humans can't type it, but they've managed to make it a joke (see zalgo text), and it only gets more ridiculous with time (see how flags are done, or emoji skin-tone modifiers). It's only a matter of time before Metafont will be easier to read and write than the hieroglyphics we're supposed to call "text."

Re: Show HN: I made a Chrome extension to reveal zero-width characters

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Post by roel_v » Thu, Apr 05, 2018, 7:25 PM UTC

Someone1234 wrote: post #5

It might make more sense as a clipboard filter. If you're an English speaker that doesn't often handle languages which gain from zero width characters you could just have a listener scan your clipboard for zero-width characters, silently strip them, and then re-populate the clipboard. Although I've been thinking about building a clipboard filter for Windows a lot lately, I'm getting tired of copying text to the addre…

There is the puretext utility that strips formatting. Can't remember if it's open source so that you could add stripping zw chars.

Re: Show HN: I made a Chrome extension to reveal zero-width characters

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Post by beautifulfreak » Thu, Apr 05, 2018, 11:31 PM UTC

jaclaz wrote: post #55

zuminator wrote: post #32

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Excellent list. For completion's sake, I'd include intentional typos as an instance of category 5. This can be hard to catch if the typo is in a name. A logical extension of that would be entirely made-up names for non-essential people/places. At the age of 5, Hawking visited Oxford, incidentally passing through Fakenamingham-on-Watermarkshire. Dictionaries/encyclopedias have been known to insert entirely fake entrie…

>Dictionaries/encyclopedias have been known to insert entirely fake entries as a way of proving ownership. Just like non-existing places/roads on maps, so-called "trap-streets": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trap_street and similar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agloe,_New_York

also mountweazels https://www.thoughtco.com/mountweazel-words-term-1691330

Re: Show HN: I made a Chrome extension to reveal zero-width characters

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Post by beautifulfreak » Fri, Apr 06, 2018, 12:57 AM UTC

I wonder if this could be used on Tor to get a user ID.

Re: Show HN: I made a Chrome extension to reveal zero-width characters

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Post by B1FF_PSUVM » Fri, Apr 06, 2018, 8:08 AM UTC

gkya wrote: post #91

B1FF_PSUVM wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bitterly invidious Lisp nerd? (They give off rays or something ... took a cursory look to see if I was being unfair, and booom - https://www.gkayaalp.com/blog/20170206_emacs-argument.html )

Yeah that's me :) At least the second part, because with Emacs I don't really need to be invidious. TBH I do actually like Unix and Plan9, but having read a big part of cat-v website in the past, most of the views there are fanatical, and are more bitter, cynical and disingenuous than I can ever force myself to be. Especially the way incredibly useful and important OSS projects are denigrated and misrepresented is re…

Well, I apologize and withdraw the 'bitterly invidious', you aren't.

One part is a matter of taste, and having been around both styles, I like better the 'keep it simple' approach. Too many functions/options overload my simple brain ;-)

Re: Show HN: I made a Chrome extension to reveal zero-width characters

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