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Facebook retracted Zuckerberg’s messages from recipients’ inboxes

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Re: Facebook retracted Zuckerberg’s messages from recipients’ inboxes

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Post by exodust »

ryanlol wrote: post #25

I recently saw the name @Mat available on instagram, I registered it. Twice. Both times the name was taken from me by a Facebook employee and eventually given to this Mat Henley guy from Uber. Screenshots of Facebook staff forcefully resetting the account names: https://i.succ.in/WuwuV1IH.png https://i.succ.in/WuMMtKTr.png (The revert button does nothing, just offers to change your password) It seems like FB employee…

Your screenshots show no evidence of "facebook staff" doing anything. Looks to me like an automated notification triggered by a username change on your account. I don't use Instagram so maybe I'm missing something, but you should have done as it said and changed your password after clicking "revert this change".

Re: Facebook retracted Zuckerberg’s messages from recipients’ inboxes

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Post by rimliu »

mirkules wrote: post #59
chx wrote: post #32

The problem with any regulation curtailing Facebook is it's practically guaranteed to hurt Internet freedoms. A lot.

Thank you! I feel like I'm watching this trainwreck in slow motion by myself, as we used to inch - but now barrell - towards regulating the internet into oblivion. This is ironic, of course, because the internet is meant to be decentralized and deregulated, and the very people pushing for regulation are the same ones that oppose legislation in other aspects (e.g. encryption). It's a very short hop from wanting Facebo…

Regulating what corporations can do with your data is a bit different than regulating internet.

Re: Facebook retracted Zuckerberg’s messages from recipients’ inboxes

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Post by jamra »

jonathankoren wrote: post #66
jamra wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article specifies that messages older than 2014 were deleted. I read once (can't find the resource now) that Microsoft deletes all chat and email messages older than a certain date. I think the reason is legal. If ever subpoenaed, providing too much chat info could be potentially damaging. I feel like the insinuation is that something specifically nefarious is going on. They can delete private messages in their o…

1) Users are explicitly not allowed to do this. You can delete things in your inbox, you can’t delete things in other people’s inboxes. 2) It convienely starts happenening right when FB finds themselves in a shitshow, and with a CEO that famously said, “They trust me — dumb fucks”. There is no evidence that this is anything except something very very new. 3) Document retention policies only work for your company. Not…

Those are not bad points, but is there any evidence that this happened recently? I didn’t find that part in the article.

Re: Facebook retracted Zuckerberg’s messages from recipients’ inboxes

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Post by mschuster91 »

marricks wrote: post #49
kerng wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> It wasn't intended. We have been hearing the "it's a bug" a lot lately from Facebook.

Agreed. I think they've pretty much used up their plausible deniability quota for the year, or decade...

Facebook, however, has a massive codebase. Their app is easily one of the biggest Android apps, in fact it's so huge they repeatedly (?) had to hack the Android runtime environment to allow it to run.

Their backend and frontend code is likely also a huge monster. In addition they're doing ML/AI stuff which is even harder to debug.

Re: Facebook retracted Zuckerberg’s messages from recipients’ inboxes

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Post by exolymph »

ryanlol wrote: post #25

I recently saw the name @Mat available on instagram, I registered it. Twice. Both times the name was taken from me by a Facebook employee and eventually given to this Mat Henley guy from Uber. Screenshots of Facebook staff forcefully resetting the account names: https://i.succ.in/WuwuV1IH.png https://i.succ.in/WuMMtKTr.png (The revert button does nothing, just offers to change your password) It seems like FB employee…

Hey, I'm a tech reporter and I'm interested in looking into this further. Can you email me, or perhaps provide contact info? My email is smann@inc.com

Re: Facebook retracted Zuckerberg’s messages from recipients’ inboxes

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Post by hellohellohihi »

colordrops wrote: post #60
alphakappa wrote: post #8

I think it's clear from nearly a decade's worth of Facebook's trysts with privacy issues that it is a company that doesn't have a fundamental stance that's in favor of user privacy. Over and over again it has either intentionally built features that disregard privacy, or put in wrong defaults, or simply brushed off criticisms when others have misused Facebook. At this point we should be asking ourselves why we expect…

> We should also be asking ourselves whether an organization that has the power to be so influential in the destinies of nations should be run by executives who see every issue as a PR issue to be dealt with, rather than ones that should teach them fundamental lessons. That's an extremely insightful statement but unfortunately also describes the DNC and RNC, which are already in control of the US.

https://vimeo.com/263108265#t=3513s

Tangential sidenote on who is actually in control. This 5 minute snippet from the new documentary 'Do You Trust This Computer?' presents an interesting perspective on how easily FB can be used to influence entire nations. Poses an interesting question of who is driving our electorate.

Seems like if FB acting in it's own best interest to promote user engagement, then it'll be very hard for them to prevent bad actors from weaponizing these very algorithms to influence large swaths of people.

Re: Facebook retracted Zuckerberg’s messages from recipients’ inboxes

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Post by majewsky »

dx034 wrote: post #55
jamesmiller5 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All I need is a better chat app, that Facebook won't buy. I can now text, voice record, send photos/selfies and video messages easily to my social circles. Connecting to second degree connections is fast and everyone I know has an account. I want to leave Facebook but I can't give up such an amazing chat experience that keeps me connected to my family and close friends. Even if I got my immediate family to use a diff…

Only using whatsapp without other facebook accounts should still be fine. Whatsapp has end2end encryption (unlike FB messenger) and if you don't use other FB products they can't use your data for ads. Obviously not as good as an independent messenger but will cause the same revenue loss for FB.

> if you don't use other FB products they can't use your data for ads

They're still siphoning their data. Just refuse WhatsApp access to your phone's address book, and see how it outright punishes you for doing that. Most of my WhatsApp contacts maintain their own names in their profiles, yet WhatsApp stubbornly shows their phone number as contact name. I usually identify contacts by looking at the profile picture (or by the conversation history if they changed that recently). Then again, I only have 3-4 contacts on WhatsApp. I would be less willing to put up with this if there were dozens of active contacts in there.

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Post by jamescyber »

after facebook now exposed truth off After a broadened activity of more than 10 months, these programmers have gotten to the private data of the apparent ISIS sympathizers that incorporates the photograph, name, email ID,MAC address etc. Kislay Chaudhary, cyber security expert and chairman of Indian Cyber Army said Despite having concrete information about the ISIS sympathizers or other terror supporters, the government or the intelligence agencies do not pay a heed to it. Instead of conducting a primary investigation, the motive and patriotism of the hackers are questioned, Full news :- Kislay Chaudhary Ft. in India today on Exposed Nasty Truth About ISIS Supporters. https://www.ica.in/newsroom/indian-cyber-army-in-india-today...
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