So, the traffic is being sniffed and analyzed, and that service was advertised as privacy-oriented?
DNS traffic, no. Random garbage traffic misdirected to 1.1.1.1, APNIC is studying.
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Re: Cloudflare's new DNS attracting 'gigabits per second' of rubbish
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
It was reworded enough times to make their promise vague and not well defined.
I’m Cloudflare’s CEO. What questions do you have? I’ll start: do we ever store 1.1.1.1’s users’ IPs? No. They’re never written to disk. And APNIC never has access to them. What data do you provide to APNIC? We give APNIC reports on non-DNS data that’s hitting 1.1.1.1. It includes information like: what protocols are sending data to the IP, what’s the volume, where it it coming from? For DNS users of 1.1.1.1, we never…
Re: Cloudflare's new DNS attracting 'gigabits per second' of rubbish
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
It was reworded enough times to make their promise vague and not well defined.
I’m Cloudflare’s CEO. What questions do you have? I’ll start: do we ever store 1.1.1.1’s users’ IPs? No. They’re never written to disk. And APNIC never has access to them. What data do you provide to APNIC? We give APNIC reports on non-DNS data that’s hitting 1.1.1.1. It includes information like: what protocols are sending data to the IP, what’s the volume, where it it coming from? For DNS users of 1.1.1.1, we never…
As personal information count full IP addresses, the content of requests, or any set of data that can be used to recover these.
That is what "we respect your privacy" means.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
They don’t get raw DNS traffic. Ever.
But that's just a Cloudflare policy, isn't it? Or are you arguing that even Cloudflare couldn't get raw DNS traffic?
Re: Cloudflare's new DNS attracting 'gigabits per second' of rubbish
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m Cloudflare’s CEO. What questions do you have? I’ll start: do we ever store 1.1.1.1’s users’ IPs? No. They’re never written to disk. And APNIC never has access to them. What data do you provide to APNIC? We give APNIC reports on non-DNS data that’s hitting 1.1.1.1. It includes information like: what protocols are sending data to the IP, what’s the volume, where it it coming from? For DNS users of 1.1.1.1, we never…
How do you know where the requests came from without IP addresses? Do you log ASN or something?
Re: Cloudflare's new DNS attracting 'gigabits per second' of rubbish
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m Cloudflare’s CEO. What questions do you have? I’ll start: do we ever store 1.1.1.1’s users’ IPs? No. They’re never written to disk. And APNIC never has access to them. What data do you provide to APNIC? We give APNIC reports on non-DNS data that’s hitting 1.1.1.1. It includes information like: what protocols are sending data to the IP, what’s the volume, where it it coming from? For DNS users of 1.1.1.1, we never…
I expect that no human from APNIC or Cloudflare will ever look at raw data from 1.1.1.1, nor will any of it be recorded, or used in aggregated data that retains any personal information. As personal information count full IP addresses, the content of requests, or any set of data that can be used to recover these. That is what "we respect your privacy" means.
We can query things like:
1. How much query traffic is from Africa? 2. What’s the peak time of query traffic? 3. What are the most popular DNS authoritative servers?
If you have specific concerns, please raise them here.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
But that's just a Cloudflare policy, isn't it? Or are you arguing that even Cloudflare couldn't get raw DNS traffic?
That’s our policy and we’ve hired outside auditors to ensure we’re honoring it. If you have suggestions of what else we can do to prove we’re a company of our word, LMK.
Re: Cloudflare's new DNS attracting 'gigabits per second' of rubbish
#29The login/"landing" page when connecting to these hotspots would not load. Changing back to 8.8.8.8 fixed the problem.
Re: Cloudflare's new DNS attracting 'gigabits per second' of rubbish
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
DNS traffic, no. Random garbage traffic misdirected to 1.1.1.1, APNIC is studying.
Does all this garbage traffic affect the performance of Cloudflare's servers? There must be some cost (performance and $$$) to filter this traffic. Was that a consideration when deciding whether to use 1.1.1.1 instead of some other IP address? :)